You listen to it anyway and it grows on you.
So much this! I don’t use Spotify, I buy all my music on Bandcamp. Sometimes I buy an album after just hearing the first song because I find it interesting, but then after a few more listens I realize that the album is not what I thought it was. However, I’m already committed because I paid for it, and it now sits at the top of my collection, so I continue to listen to it. Sometimes it turns out I find qualities in the music that I didn’t notice at the first listen, and I learn to like it. Sometimes not, and I ditch it.
This was also the way I discovered music before Spotify even existed, I just never changed my habits (I just used other services than Bandcamp back then). I think more people should try turning off the algorithmic entertainment faucet that is Spotify and try committing a bit more to the music that they listen to. Also, a lot more money goes to the artists this way, Spotify is basically stealing from the artists.
I buy all my music on Bandcamp.
How much have you spent on buying albums in Bandcamp? It must be a lot if Bandcamp is the your only choice for listening to music.
I have 170 albums in my Bandcamp collection. I have a lot more on my mp3 collection which I have bought via other means. Each album is maybe $10 on average, so that is around $1700. I have used Bandcamp for around 8 years after 7digital closed their EU store and eMusic became trash. So that’s around $17 per month. Not a lot of money in my book, music means a lot to me!
Okay, that’s a large collection. I am more interested to buy vinyl these days but they are too expensive here.
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Conversely, you buy a CD from a band you’ve never heard of just because you like the album art or maybe even the title or the band name, and you find out it’s a god damn masterpiece from start to finish. This is how I discovered Audioslave almost 20 years ago and it’s the best $14 I ever spent. I still have the disc btw and it still plays perfectly.
That album showed me how to live.
But it didn’t give you life… Wait, did it?
Technically the one I bought on a whim back then was Out of Exile, which I would now consider the weakest of the three, but I liked it enough to seek out more.
That’s how I bought the Hybrid Theory album from Linkin Park. Took a chance, knew nothing about them.
This was LD50 for me
in 1999 you had the ability to get into a music shop, load the cd and test listen to it. Or just go through the music charts. Or wish for a specific song on radio.
Also 1999 already had Napster, Morpheus and others.
A lot of people still bought whole cd’s because it had that one song from the radio on it.
Kazaa, limewire. One - Metallica.mp3.exe as far as the eye can see.
That file was the best. I could have made a collection out of them xD
Format C:, Reinstall XP
In 1999? Uuuuh.
I’m old enough to know the pencil trick to fix a cassette that got eaten by the stereo…
I still keep a pencil in my car. I know there’s no cassette to play, but my car feels naked with a pencil rolling around the center console or in the little tray on the dash.
I also learned how to do this as a child but I am probably a bit younger than you at 18yo.
“Old or poor…”
It was less that we were poor and more that my parents had a lot of music and radio dramas on different media. My father still has more than two hundred vinyl disks that he plays semiregularly and I have an old audio tape player/recorder sitting around in my bedroom although I don’t really use that one.
Just having a joke, glad to hear people committed to the old media
In the 2000s, some electronics stores where I lived had “jukeboxes” with headphones and a barcode scanner, so you could listen to 30-second snippets of the songs on an album before buying it.
God, I miss test listens. My favorite record store was very easy going in this, they’d happily let me stand there listening to most of the CD. The unspoken rule was that if you spend that much time listening, you’re going to buy it anyway.
One of the few shops where I always felt welcome.
Then you realize you aren’t paying $20 a month, and you buy a new album, that you fucking OWN forever.
$20 CAD gets you a family plan that you can share up to 5 people, so $4 CAD each.
Not sure what you’re on about. If you’re paying $20 for Spotify you’re getting ripped off.
Or you can pay $25 CAD for YouTube Premium, share it with 5 people, and get both YouTube ad free AND YouTube Music for $5 CAD per month.
I’d rather pay $4/$5 per month to access millions of songs than $20 for an album that I will get bored of in a few months, thanks.
i’m curious now
usually censorship is used to replace a strong word with a milder one, or to change the meaning of the text
what word in this meme was so egregious that OP saw fit to replace it with “fucking”
My best guess is that it originally was “fucking,” someone censored it to something like “hecking,” then someone else censored the censor back to “fucking”
I kinda love this journey though
Who doesn’t love fucking?
Asexuals?
$10 would get a you a CD where the 3rd track is also the last.
Yup. I seem to remember most mainstream albums were around $15-20 in the 1990s. Adjusted for inflation, that’d be about $28-37 today.
At least you fucking OWN the thing, tho
Yet I don’t have any of them anymore
I guess they’re in a closet… Deep in the back.
It’s 1999 and I’m standing in a music store listening to a few new albums I might buy, while talking with the other audio nerds about upcoming releases and musicians I haven’t even heard of before.
I kinda miss it. Like Libraries, but I get to buy and keep whatever I enjoy.
You buy a Sony CD and decide to play it on your computer.
Your computer now has a rootkit installed.
And these days people just install the rootkit, only it’s allegedly to prevent game cheating.
And, when called out, everyone tells you you’re a paranoid, tinfoil hat wearing, organ trafficking criminal
That’s because you guys throw around the word “rootkit” like my parents call everything “woke” or “communist.”
You probably couldn’t even define what a rootkit is yet you’re scared shitless of a thing you can’t properly define.
So yeah, anyone who’s afraid of something they don’t even understand fully is absolutely paranoid.
Most people are not fully cognizant of the rights they sign away in a click through. There is paranoid and there is prudent.
Read the EULA, if you don’t want an anticheat that requires those permissions then don’t install the game.
Something having kernel access doesn’t make it a rootkit, it makes it high-risk for misuse by a threat actor. Only if the software was exploited by a bad actor to acquire root/hardware permissions would this issue actually become something.
That, or if the anticheat wasn’t uninstallable and/or dodged scans intended to locate it, etc.
Putting the responsibility to understand legalese (and advanced concepts like rootkits) to such an extent on the end user is just straight gaslighting. Nobody has the required expertise to determine what an EULA actually says outside of the lawyer who wrote it, and even then, I wouldn’t guarantee it.
yeah maybe just design proper authoritative servers instead?
anticheats are kinda a band-aid solution.
I STILL don’t buy Sony shit because of that. They booby trapped their product and idiots still buy it. There are plenty of competitors who don’t do that.
Discovery of new music is so much easier now with Spotify/YouTube/etc. In the past you had a slim-to-none chance of coming across a band/artist/album outside your local scene, no matter what the genre. Back then you kind of had to be “in the know” for that to happen.
Spotify maybe, I’ve never used it. And Google Play music used to be the best for this, but YouTube music has me stuck in a loop of my last 10 or 20 songs and I hate it.
If I’m listening to some techno, and I change gears to old school country/bluegrass for awhile, then, YouTube will never ever recommend techno to me again. Not unless I manually remember some of my favorite songs, search for them, and retrain it that I like techno. But then of course country slowly dies. God forbid I mix in hard rock, punk rock, or rap. It just confuses it more.
And it’s not just a genre problem, even within a genre of repeats the same dozen or two songs every time I open the app.
It’s not just me, I have a family plan and my brothers have both separately complained to me about the algorithms being worse than Google Play music, which is what we used to use.
I literally created a playlist called YouTube music sucks, where I save my most liked songs, so I can reseed the algorithm when I want a change of tunes. I need the playlist because I have a terrible memory and can’t remember all the songs I’ve liked.
Why don’t I change? Because I’m cheap, and it’s bundled with YouTube premium for the whole family. And it has no right to be as bad as it is. I keep thinking they’re gonna fix it, but I guess maybe people like being spoon fed their last 20 liked songs?
Spotify is really good with recommendations. I think they use different algorithms for the different personal playlists: the Release Radar seems to use my followed artists and all my playlists, while Discover Weekly uses my recent listening history.
Reminds me of boxed software, too. You check the compatibility, the features that included one must-have new feature. Buy it and discover what vaporware is. It started me on the ethics of pirating, finding out if it actually works, and then, and only then, buying a real copy. I donate to developers on Linux, now.
And Bandcamp.
Bandcamp just laid off a ton of people…from Bandcamp fan with 1500+ albums. I’ve definitely paid back my napster shenanigans.
You were done after napster?
I mean, it really only started to take off with eDonkey. napster was still very slow and so much malware disguised as mp3 files.
You didn’t even have to think about storage solutions. Even if i had my ISDN Connection bundled ( no phone line free for calls then ), the speed was max 128 Kbps.
Sorry, i suddenly remembered these details, from a long long time ago.
50% were laid off. This after Songtradr had commited to keep the Bandcamp experience the same.
The union was for nothing. Epic just sold, before any agreement wss made and again a few made a lot, while employees must endure whatever comes.
This fucking sucks big time.
The Internet as we knew it, is fading away and we just can hope that our privacy and an open internet are not only things we remember fondly, in a few years.
How could a .MP3 file be malware?
How was Napster slower than any other P2P client?
Oh, they weren’t mp3 files. Iirc it was stuff like darude-sandstorm-live-mp3.exe or eminem-without-me-mp3.exe.
It wasn’t Napster’s fault, ISDN at the time was what most people had. 1 internet + 1 phone line. You got online with max 68 Kbps. Bundling both lines got you 128 Kbps, then the phone line would be obviously busy giving you more speed, rendering the phone unusable.
Those were fun times in households with more than 1 member.
I just got to college in 2000 and had highspeed Napster. From there I found some sketch Russian site I could get music from for a few years in the early 2000s but there was also a huge used CD store in my college town with reasonable prices I used to frequent. Now days if I want to find a bunch of new music I dont know, Usenet for the win. But honestly most of the stuff I like is on bandcamp usually and I will go buy the bands I find on use net. My best discovery has been Brant Bjork (he played drums in Kyuss but makes chill ass rock) and PallBearer and Arkansas doom band that is pretty great. I have since purchased their catalogue on Vinyl, mostly on band camp because it is hard to find in stores.
In the 2000s i was always looking for music and found a Forum from Ukraine called FunkySouls that covered all new releases and was active until a few days after Russia invaded. There were some threads with excellent taste and i really miss those guys.
Cuntroll from Russia also has some good artists.
After i found that Moon Wiring Club was on Bandcamp, i took a look around and found a lot of good music. When i buy something, it’s usually from Bandcamp.
I saw Kyuss live a loong time ago, thanks for the tip. This made me think of Boris’ new EP “me when the when i”. They were always a tad too experimental for me to keep them on repeat. Their newest album though, is a very very smooth release - chill ass rock describes it perfectly.
I also stumbled on the label subsist on Bandcamp some time ago and have gotten almost all releases and eagerly waiting for new releases. Excellent raw electronics.
I’ll have to check it out…I found Kyuss the same way and thank god for that.
Godspeed
$10 for an album? You lucky dog, here one album CD costs at that time around $25.
napster :)
napster baaaad
Yeah. If we are talking 99-2001ish Napster was king.
CDs were up to $16 when I was making less that $10/hr at work. 😢
discogs is the shit. fuck spotify, and their corporate plants in every other “personalized” playlist they generate. at least you have something to show for your money 25 years later and a company can’t decide to arbitrarily stop offering the music etc.
