I was shocked in the presidential debate that Harris gave staunch support for fracking. I was under the impression that democrats are against fracking, and remember people being critical of Fetterman for supporting it.

I also grew up in an area that was heavily impacted by the pollution from fracking. People who worked in the field were seen as failures of moral character who chose profits over the health of their children. How is it that both major parties are now in support of it? I feel like I must be missing a piece of the puzzle.

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    What is even the difference beyond rhetoric between these two candidates? They both hate immigrants and Palestinians, love Israel and fossil fuels, and neither have a tenable plan to improve the economy for the working class. Don’t let anyone give you a hard time about not voting for either.

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      One is a Russian asset intent on destroying America from within; the other is Kamala Harris. Your eyes must be getting real bad to not see that.

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          Not really, since it’s now public knowledge that the entirety of Trump-positive media is bankrolled by the Kremlin.

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            The entirety? Regardless, what difference does it make if both candidates are arguing that they will carry out the same policies more effectively than the other? It’s plain russophobia if you oppose a candidate for no discernable reason than alleged support of their campaign by Russia.

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              Same policies, my ass. Harris supports abortion rights, LGBT rights, more progressive tax policies, and has a stronger foreign policy strategy with respect to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, among many other policy positions that are superior to Trump’s. On the other hand, Trump supports the far-right vision of Project 2025 and wants to impose ridiculously high tariffs on imported goods to sharply increase the cost of living for most Americans. Most Lemmy readers see right through your bothsidesism.

              We criticize Russia-backed propaganda campaigns such as Tenet Media because they disinform voters to promote Trump, who is content with Ukraine being annexed by Russia. Crying Russophobia doesn’t excuse the fact that Russia sees Trump as a tool to further Russian imperialism.

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                No she doesn’t. The only issues to which she’s explicitly committed is support for Israel and fracking.

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                  You’re lying, because Harris covered all of the policies I mentioned in her platform:

                  Restore and Protect Reproductive Freedoms

                  Vice President Harris and Governor Walz trust women to make decisions about their own bodies, and not have the government tell them what to do.

                  Donald Trump handpicked members of the United States Supreme Court to take away reproductive freedom – and now he brags about it. In his words, “I did it, and I’m proud to have done it.” He even called for punishment for women who have an abortion.

                  Since Roe v. Wade was overturned, Vice President Harris has driven the Administration’s strategy to defend reproductive freedom and safeguard the privacy of patients and providers. As Governor, Tim Walz led Minnesota to become the first state to pass a law protecting a woman’s right to choose following the overturning of Roe. Vice President Harris has traveled America and heard the stories of women hurt by Trump abortion bans. Stories of couples just trying to grow their family, cut off in the middle of IVF treatments. Stories of women miscarrying in parking lots, developing sepsis, losing the ability to ever have children again — all because doctors are afraid they may go to jail for caring for their patients. As President, she will never allow a national abortion ban to become law. And when Congress passes a bill to restore reproductive freedom nationwide, she will sign it.

                  Protect Civil Rights and Freedoms

                  As President, she’ll fight to pass the Equality Act to enshrine anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQI+ Americans in health care, housing, education, and more into law.

                  Cut Taxes for Middle Class Families

                  Vice President Harris and Governor Walz believe that working families deserve a break. That’s why under their plan more than 100 million working and middle-class Americans will get a tax cut. They will do this by restoring two tax cuts designed to help middle class and working Americans: the Child Tax Credit and the Earned Income Tax Credit. Through these two programs, millions of Americans get to keep more of their hard-earned income. They will also expand the Child Tax Credit to provide a $6,000 tax cut to families with newborn children. They believe no child in America should live in poverty, and these actions would have a historic impact.

                  Unlike Donald Trump, Vice President Harris and Governor Walz are committed to ensuring no one earning less than $400,000 a year will pay more in taxes. They believe that we need to chart a New Way Forward by both making our tax system fairer and prioritizing investment and innovation. They will ensure the wealthiest Americans and the largest corporations pay their fair share, so we can take action to build up the middle class while reducing the deficit. This includes rolling back Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, enacting a billionaire minimum tax, quadrupling the tax on stock buybacks, and other reforms to ensure the very wealthy are playing by the same rules as the middle class. Under her plan, the tax rate on long-term capital gains for those earning a million dollars a year or more will be 28 percent, because when the government encourages investment, it leads to broad-based economic growth and creates jobs, which makes our economy stronger.

                  Stand With Our Allies, Stand Up to Dictators, and Lead on the World Stage

                  Five days before Russia attacked Ukraine, she met with President Zelenskyy to warn him about Russia’s plan to invade and helped mobilize a global response of more than 50 countries to help Ukraine defend itself against Vladimir Putin’s brutal aggression. And she has worked with our allies to ensure NATO is stronger than ever.

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                    Harris hasn’t said any of that with her chest they way she committed to Israel and fracking the other night. There’s barely any meat in this list anyway? Why did you even quote the Ukraine bit? On the point of reproductive rights in particular, you are Chalie Brown going for a football if you think there’s anything there. The Democrats have a strong track record of not protecting abortion access federally and her campaign is doing the same old blackmail by reminding us of an allegedly looming national abortion ban. It’s time to break the cycle.

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        I assure you that neither of these candidates or their parties cares if any of us live or die. Even if they claim to support your rights, they don’t really mean it. Just look at the Democrat’s track record on codifying Roe v. Wade into law. They’re just blackmailing you into voting for them.

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      One is a idiot thin-skinned grifter man child cult leader who doesn’t care about anyone but themselves, and the other is Kamala Harris.

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      Most people just lapring two party regime circle jerk. We got a generation to go before we get critical mass understanding that vote for either party is the vote [for] the regime.

      They will keep looting unless the two party system is upset by people voting any third choice alternative as a FUCK U to the two parties.

      But hey bro vote for my guy, trust me bro HOPE and CHANGE is coming after you vote for my guy bro… you are not [nazi or commie], vote for my guy