I also had no idea the top portion of the Starship Enterprise could separate like that. That was pretty sweet.

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    Hot take: you don’t fully appreciate Q until you’ve watched all the episodes he’s in. That includes the ones in Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

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    You’re supposed to kinda hate Q. He plays a recurring role here and there throughout the series, but not a central one.

    The first season of TNG is a bit rough; it definitely improves.

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      Season two also isn’t the greatest. But its got some solid stories that do affect things later.

      Mostly I just can’t stand Pulaski

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    If you hated him on Next Gen, you’ll really hate him on Deep Space Nine. Fortunately, he only appeared there once.

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    I hate Q also… To me he was always just an excuse for the writers to take a mental break

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    I hate Q but love TNG.

    Fortunately he is in few episodes, but unfortunately he is very influential plot-wise when he does appear.

    It doesn’t ruin how great TNG is to me at all, though

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    I felt the exact same way about Q after the first episode both as a character and as a concept for the show. They basically introduced God in the first episode of a science fiction show and he is annoying and arrogant.

    But he is actually one of the best characters by the time the show is over and his all-powerful nature is toned down a little bit.

    Season 1 is pretty goofy and inconsistent overall. Give it a chance and accept it for what it is and by season 4 the writing is some of the best in science fiction TV.

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      introduced God… he is annoying and arrogant

      I mean, if you had those powers too, wouldn’t you be a little arrogant?

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        That’s a fair point. I remember there being several but honestly don’t remember any specifically other than the Gamemaster of Triskelion because he gave such a funny performance.

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    Keep going. It get’s much much better. Each season is better than the last, but Season 2 is where the feel of the show stablises and softens; it’ll always be jarring when you go back to season 1 after you pass it. Season 3 is definitely where it starts to hit it’s stride.

    It’s largely an episodic show; you could skip to season 3 and go back to the season 1 & 2 later without missing much. A few recurring characters and themese like do Q make more sense if you watch from the start though.

    If you’re really wavering definitely skip to season 3.

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    Since others have fully covered the Q portion of your comment I came to say that that cool saucer separation that’s so bad ass happens like 3 times max!

    I get that maybe it’s “expensive” or awkward to write or something from the production standpoint that makes it underused, but seriously, is it “expensive” in-universe?! Because they spread that shit out more sparingly than me buying pine nuts!

    Other show reference alert: it’s a lot like on Deep Space 9 how rarely Odo changes. If I had that fucking power I wouldn’t hold back! Let’s see, can I squeeze any more complaints in? I never understood the premise on Bewitched that Darren & Sam wouldn’t want to use her powers to make things better constantly! Ok I’m done. For now.

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    Idk John DeLancie has that “Tim Curry” energy where he chews the scenery well and is fun to watch but wasn’t much a fan of Season 1 Q.

    It gets better.

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      I agree. It got unexpectedly trippy and weird at times, which was a pleasant surprise. He just came across really cornbally. I could imagine him maybe growing on me.

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    Unless you are a completist who’s willing to sit through the less than good episodes, you may want to use an episode guide such as this one which I found useful when I went back to rewatch it. Yes Q is kind of annoying, that’s actually his character and how everyone in the show feels about him too. But there are also some fantastic episodes with him, so once you get to those, you may not hate his presence as much.

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      I feel compelled to recommend this guide by a long time Daystrom Institute contributor. It does an excellent job identifying episodes as essential, unnecessary but fun, mediocre, or outright bad. A good place to work from if you want a more flexible recommendation of what to try and what not to.

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    I’m jealous that you’re getting your first go through, that was a pretty magical experience.

    I usually watch the whole series every couple of years, and I’m due for a watch now, but I can’t. Star Trek was something I shared with my dad, who died two years ago, and I just can’t seem to make myself watch it anymore.

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      I watched Star Trek because my dad introduced me to it. I’m now a dad and I am sharing it with my kids.

      I don’t know you, and I don’t know your family, but if your father liked Star Trek enough to introduce you to it, my guess is that he wouldn’t want his death to take that away from you. If anything, my bet would be he’d hope it would bring you comfort and fond memories and hope for the future.

      I hope you can get there when enough time has passed, and I hope this message might help it all hurt a little less.

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        Oh yeah he totally would want me to keep on going, and I’m trying, but there’s just too much emotion there. It’s a show that I love because it’s a testament to what humanity could accomplish if we just got our shit together, and I’ve always felt emotionally attached to the show… it’s just too much right now.

        Eventually.

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          Grief is complicated, and two years is no time at all to recover from the death of a parent. It makes complete sense that watching something you associate with him would still be painful, and there’s nothing to be gained by forcing it.

          Eventually you’ll reach the point where reminders of your father bring up happy feelings, with the pain of losing him still present, but not overwhelming. That won’t happen fast, but you will get there. That’s the time to give TNG another go, and see how it makes you feel.

          Hang in there, friend.

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    He shows up here and there, I don’t know maybe 1.5 times a season or something. I’d need to check exact counts.

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      He doesn’t really get better, but later on the circumstances that appear around him make Q more palatable.

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    Honestly, if you started from scratch nothing you see in season one applies.

    Just… assume everything reboots after but they keep the lore. It’ll be fine.