• Vieric@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I’ve seen articles similar to this many, many times over many, many years, but we’re still using the same battery tech as ever. Breakthroughs are good and all, but don’t go ranting and raving too hard about this stuff unless it becomes viable and practical enough for either consumer or industrial applications, preferably both.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      3 days ago

      we’re not using all the same battery tech today. there’s sodium ion batteries which are widespread in china already today. the west is just lagging behind (again)

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          3 days ago

          Technology wise, we really have a lot of eggs in the ai basket

          So not only are we lagging behind, we’re also making idiotic choices about what to advance in

          • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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            Idk that I think there is much of a we anymore.

            If I had a billion dollar company I’d be looking for a partner in the Chinese Government and I’d be making one hell of a sales pitch.

    • TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca
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      3 days ago

      Ehhhh battery tech has been advancing quite a bit lately as we (thankfully) move away from lithium-based batteries. Grid-scale installations use a variety of battery tech these days with constant improvements being made to them. Liquid metal batteries, salt batteries, flow batteries, etc there are a lot of new options being used and developed.

      On the more consumer-focused end of things, LFP batteries have surged in popularity due to their lower cost, higher reliability, and longer life. NMC batteries are also sued in some EVs. We probably won’t see a replacement to lithium ion cells for consumer electronics for a while because their power density per size/weight is so good but R&D is still making progress with alternative technologies.

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        Liquid metal batteries, salt batteries, flow batteries, etc there are a lot of new options being used and developed.

        Ambri is already broke.

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        3 days ago

        Yeah, for gridscale power in areas without enormously expensive land prices, cheap might beat out dense in terms of battery tech usability. Lithium is still best for applications that require energy density (EVs) but for grid storage I can see bulky, cheap, resilient/reliable batteries make more sense as a long-term investment.

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          3 days ago

          I can see bulky, cheap, resilient/reliable batteries make more sense as a long-term investment.

          Pump water up a hill during sunlight.

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            3 days ago

            Just requires a hill that is big enough, two basins that can hold the water, and then of cause we need all the water.