It’s upside down! Why are we not taking about the real issue. The disks will slide out…
Discs, and they won’t slide out if your CD wallet is of good quality!
Yeah, that’s pretty fucked up. Whoever did the PS is a youngling.
All of my CD wallets are of good quality. I can hold them upside down with no slippage.
What kind of rubbish CD wallets were you both using?
The OfficeMax special, only $4.99
Sure but would you hold them that way on purpose?
Depends how sober I am!
Made for a good haul for the junkies breaking into your car in the apartment parking lot every three months.
You kept you DVD movie collection in the car, even when it was stolen before?
OK, but where are they going to sell 53 CDs of burned One Piece?
Hey, do you think these junkies go back to their crack houses & make mixtapes for each other?
Now that’s what I call smash & grab music
I got my CD binder stolen from my car once. It was a big one too, like 75 CDs
speaking from experience?
Do people not still do this? Isn’t it the most convenient way to store loads of DVDs and CDs?
I haven’t used a CD or DVD for years. Most of my devices have no disc drive. Streaming has won, at least for lazy people like me.
I bought a CD from a band I enjoyed and got home to realize I couldn’t play it
I would have to put it in my old laptop-the one with a disk drive and bluetooth to the speakers
Similar situation, someone gave me a live album of a band I love as a gift and I was psyched to listen to it, only to realize at home I had no way of playing it…
I updated my PC just a week or so ago. Finally moved away from a case with external drive bays. That case was just not able to keep a 3080 cool.
Honestly, I had a Bluray drive in there that was not used in so long, that on my previous upgrade four years ago, in that case I forgot to reconnect it and only found out last week when I was taking it apart for the re-used parts.
I have a blu-ray drive that I use once or twice a year to rip a movie. 5 years or so ago I was the weirdo that has both a blu-ray and dvd drive in my computer, as I was ripping my entire movie library.
Immortan Joe ain’t spraying your teeth metallic
But how do you load the Ultimate Boot CD for Windows 🤓 hehe
I’m in the same boat honestly, I have a lot of stuff on disks still but I just pull out an old optical drive from the box if I need to read them, or an old laptop or tower or whatever that’s got an optical drive.
I do wish booting live USB was a little more universally easy though, it can be a bit of a pain in the arse compared to live CDs, these bloody TPMs and weird bios stuff getting in the way are a real pain. But overall, disks have had their day.
I do still use long term Blu-rays for bulk 10-plus-years cold storage backup though! Wouldn’t trust flash or HDDs for that.
Which is everyone willing to pay
anyone that has any amount of physical media now also probably likes having the cases and art to look at
Honestly yeah, I like having my CDs in their cases on the shelf so if I want to listen to a specific CD I can take it out and play it in a CD player. Sure I have so much music at my fingertips thanks to streaming, but there’s something really personal about taking a disk to listen to it. I guess I understand now what people used to say about vinyls back in the day
No, the most convenient way is ripping them and turning them into media files that I can copy to anything I want.
Archiving them like this also helps fight against bit rot. They aren’t getting any younger (and by the CD/DVD’s last days, they weren’t exactly made out of the most high quality materials). I’m already experiencing this with floppies and retro computer stuff.
I had limited run CDs that spent their life temperature controlled and out of sunlight and they still had parts of the data layer “rot” away to the point they aren’t listenable at all anymore.
After I found those I started getting records on vinyl instead.
I have one that i last updated in 2012 still. I had a nexflix subcription with 3 movies mailed to me that I’d rip in DVDfab and burn to another DVD and mail back the same day i received the movies.
It is, but it isn’t the most convenient way to store movies.
Its not that we found a better way to store media disks. Its that we found a better way to store media thanks to storage devices getting cheaper
I do, because DVDs can’t get pulled from streaming services or be region locked, and it’s worked out cheaper to buy discs than subscribe to yet another service
i find the cloud and various nefarious streaming services are more effective these days
I still buy CDs. Do I listen to them directly? No, I rip them and go with the FLACs, but it’s still nice to have something physical, especially if buying directly from the artist (e.g. at a concert).
and you have a physical backup.
Yes, but that’s hardly something I rely on. I prefer just copying my whole music library across several hard drives, some of them staying outside of my home. If I have to rip everything again, it would be quite a lot of work.
My kids have a music player called Yoto. It takes little cards which tells it which playlist to use. This is easy for kids to understand, and lets them listen to stories and music without adding more screen time. The cards don’t actually store the music, just tell the player where to download it from.
My wife recently realized we had quite a few of these cards now. So she bought this:
The future is here, and it looks a lot like the past.
On that one hand, that’s kind of cute and cool. But on the other, I find it a bit depressing that the main difference between this and CD wallets of the past is that the CDs actually did store the data.
With the CDs, you literally were holding the information, and you could use it as you wish without reliance or permission from anyone else. Whereas the cards, as you say, they just point to where the data is. You still need to rely on a whole chain of different services to get access to it. Access can be revoked at any time, either deliberately, or by some error, or by some critical service shutting down. It’s just like the past, but worse. Isn’t it?
Yeah, pretty much. In their defense they’re more resilient to greasy kid fingers and being dropped behind the couch, but I still wish the data was actually stored on the card, or on some form of local storage. We had an mp3 player with an SD card before that, but then you can’t switch playlist as easily.
The past is now.
That’s a CD folder
I kinda miss the days of pirating a movie, burning it to a disk, and then popping it into a DVD player. Like it’s objectively more convenient now, with Jellyfin/Emby/Plex media servers that can stream to any device in your home, but it has lost some of the analogue charm of feeling like a hackerman dressed like Neo when you gave a friend or a family member a DVD with sharpie writing on it, and them thinking you were some tech genius lmao.
I remember some software where you could include like a custom DVD menu, where you could press chapters and subtitles and stuff before starting the film, and thinking I was the coolest person in the world when I showed my friends hahahha. Ah good times. Thanks for the nostalgia trip.
Hell yeah. And before DVD burners, you could burn Invader Zim eps to a VCD and pop that into a DVD player, amazing your friends!
Early piracy was just so fun. Like I’m glad that it’s more simple, and accessible now, and that you are less likely to use your dial-up internet to download a virus over 3 days… But, it was so exciting lmao. Like it felt like you were stepping into some underground club that no one knew about - even though you were a 12 year old nerd with no prospects of a girlfriend in the near future hahahaha. But it was really fun, and it helped me learn to like problem-solving, and the idea of piracy, and open-source software def also helped me develop some ideas about the world around sharing, and stuff.
Anyway I think that’s enough gushing about that hahaha, just wanted to indulge in my nostalgia for a minute.
Are you absolutely me?
Did you spend 33 minutes downloading an MP3 of “Eyes on Me” from FFVIII, praying that nobody picks up the phone, then nearly crying while listening to it because your family computer plays MIDI files so poorly compared to your friends’ family computers?
Early piracy for me was getting PC games on floppy disks from friends and relatives. It was kind of just accepted everyone who had a computer would copy their games and software for everyone else.
It owned tbh.
I found one in a parking lot after 4th of July fireworks. Had mostly original CDs instead of copied CD-Rs. Was quite a collection
Someone brought their most loved music to the party and instead of hearing those favorite songs and having future glimmers full of fond memories, they probably woke up with a devastating hangover, drenched in their own vomit, in the bushes of a garden in the front of some strangers house.
im still using mine in my car from 2001
T H E C L O U D is enshittified pretty badly, so maybe it’s time for that to go back into style.
I used to have 128 GB MicroSD that I would plug into my phone/laptop/Tablet with movies and music.
But since we can’t have nice things anymore - almost no modern devices support it.
I have a 128gb smart phone with bluetooth and wifi. Can literally listen to anything everywhere any time the battery is charged
Yes, but your audio will sound shit compared to listening to lossless audio with wired headphones. Oh, you also probably don’t own that music also, once those servers go down you’ll lose everything.
Bluetooth is 1.4Mb/s. At 74 minutes, the recommended length of a CD per the standard, you will have transferred 777MB, or more than fits on a CD. Even ignoring all the massive advancements in audio compression, and massive advancements in computational power afforded to decompression hardware (thus allowing better compression to be used), you will have more bandwidth, or “quality” in a Bluetooth stream than a CD-player compatible CD.
Bluetooth audio codecs still leave a lot to be desired, and are pretty far from the cutting edge of compression to put it mildly. You can get good audio, but you have to be very careful with your combination of headphones and output device, because a lot of combinations don’t have the same codecs, and you end up with the lowest common multiple. There are new standards in development, though, so I think this will be largely solved in about 5 years.
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Yeah, what bus_factor said, the codecs compress it and loses a bunch of audio quality. I know because I along with friends who are not extreme audiophiles can tell the difference.
If it’s truly awful you might be in phone call mode. If the microphone is enabled it switches to the phone call profile which only supports a single, extremely shitty codec, so if it sounds like you’re listening to FM radio with very poor signal, you should probably switch to a microphone not attached to your headphones.
It’s not terrible, it’s just noticeable. Like if you were to use the same headphones with the cable you’ll be like “yo, this is even better”.
Yeah those are good points, sure. I shouldn’t wear headphones while driving, and the door speakers are basic anyway, so I don’t see that a priority right now, but have considered that before. TBH, the only music I do listen to via steaming service is the stuff I haven’t bought physical copies of yet, and copied over.
And Games, and Warez
of course movies are all digital now but yep I still have a CD wallet of classic games like roller coaster tycoon, la noire, etc that I got on CD and refuse to pay for again on steam. I built my PC with a CD bay but these days a USB optical drive should be fairly cheap anyway.
music depends - I have a few early unsigned demos from a few of my favorite obscure punk bands that ended up being better than half their late catalog despite never being published that I refuse to give up
sincerely, a geriatric millenial
CDs for sure but I owned over 2000 DVDs and I never would have done this with any of them.
I bought heavy duty drawers to store my DVDs in inside their cases.
Well… I guess you are talking about legal DVDs, this although maybe people did it as well with originals, pretty sure it was more common for not authorized copies.
YoU wOuLdN’t StEaL a CaR!
If you were fancy you’d buy a stack of DVD-Rs that came in jewel cases. For the stuff you didn’t care so much about you’d keep them in paper sleeves.
Or do like everyone else: store them on the spindle they came on.
I had a disk wallet full of pirated PS2 games. That was the coolest shit
I had several full of pirated Dreamcast games and it was glorious.
We lived the sweet spot of time when internet piracy, crackable consoles and home cd burners converged
I lost one of those between house moves, with many cds in it
Little me was devastated.
revealing ones age lol