• win95@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    That avril Lavigne was replaced by a clone is so incredibly silly and I honestly thought it was a joke first, but people are really obsessing over it. She recently did a podcast and acknowledged the conspiracy and laughed about it, what fueled the believers even more.

  • Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    The official 9/11 conspiracy theory… Literally would need to change the laws of physics for it to be true

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    7 months ago

    That’s like asking who the craziest person is. Like, there’s so many to choose from, and they get less and less well known as you go nuttier and nuttier.

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    Flat-earthers, and I see it as the most unhinged for one simple reason:

    It seemingly has no – Stakes?

    Like

    With every other conspiracy, whether it be related to 5G or Fluoride in the Water or Vaccines or whatever, there is someone who is consolidating a shit-ton of power or wealth through their conspiring, y’know?

    But with Flat Eartherism… ? Like. Imagine you got control of every educational institution. You use it to convince people the planet is the wrong shape. And by doing that you gain… – What exactly? It just seems pointless? We know what people do when they have power to manipulate people on that level, because history tells us. And they generally don’t bother with the shape of the planet.

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      The point, for believers, is just to know stuff the sheeple don’t and feel superior. It’s a smug club, they could have picked anything to be contrarian about. It’s unfortunate that they’ve picked a very measurable thing, so they occasionally self-own with experiments. It doesn’t change their mind, though, because being right isn’t the point.

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      They’re usually also Biblical literalists, who believe that their infallible God-authored Bible says the Earth is flat (“four corners”, covered in a dome, etc), thus the globe is an attack on Christianity. The worldly institutions are all controlled by the devil, who wants Christians to doubt their Bible and their belief in God.

      https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44

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    7 months ago

    That there is an all powerful supreme being that demands our worship or else we will suffer for all eternity after our death.

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    7 months ago

    I know it pales in comparison to most others here, but that Star Wars theory about Jar Jar Binks being the ultimate Sith mastermind instantly popped into my head.

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    7 months ago

    I haven’t been able to find this theory again because searching for it brings up the moon landing conspiracy, but some people think that there’s a second, fake moon which is why the moon rises and sets twice a day.

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    Flat Earth.

    It’s not the most immediately shocking, not the most colorful and dramatic, but there are two factors where no other conspiracy theory can compete:

    1. It is so easily falsifiable that basically more people would have to be in on the conspiracy than not.
    2. Nobody would stand to gain anything from the lie.
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      Yeah, at least with something like the fake moon landing conspiracy, there is a clear motive for it. Like the USA and USSR both had very strong propaganda machines and really strong incentives for hitting the next space race milestone.

      The tech was barely advanced enough to perform the functions necessary to complete the mission, everything was pushed to its absolute limits to successfully perform.

      But the flat earth thing has none of that. The tech necessary to demonstrate the curvature of the earth existed thousands of years ago and in fact was believed pretty widely by even ancient peoples.

      There exists no motive, no incentives, and requires believing that basically all of known physics is completely wrong despite thousands of obvious counter-examples.

      Just stupid.

  • Fizz@lemmy.nz
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    Id have to go with the jews control everything theory from the racist perspective. They believe that the jews have infiltration top levels of western society for the sole intention of destroying the white race and creating an underclass of mindless golem that they can control.

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      I really don’t get the Nazi belief system.

      1. Some races are superior to others and naturally must rule
      2. Despite all persecutions, Jews are immensely powerful and secretly control the world

      According to their own philosophy they should be willingly serving the superior race - Jews

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        I can explain how their nonsense ideology works, but it's really dumb and extremely racist and you might be better off not knowing
        Are you sure?

        The reasoning goes that certain races are more inclined towards physical strength while being mentally inferior, such that they can’t accomplish anything on their own but can contribute if “directed,” while Jewish people are the opposite, such that they can understand things and manipulate people, but not build or accomplish anything on their own. White people are supposed to be a sort of “happy medium,” not necessarily the smartest or the strongest but smart enough to figure things out with enough strength and gumption to follow through - the image being similar to the highly idealized capitalist innovator, building a company from the ground up with hard work and vision. In the Nazi worldview, white people’s fatal flaw is being too moral and kind, which Jews exploit by spreading socialist ideology, and which can prevent whites from taking action and exerting strength. So in the Nazi worldview, Jews control the world only because white people aren’t really trying hard enough, and because of that, conditions are declining because Jews only want to take over existing structures and not build anything new.

        This worldview is obviously complete bullshit that exists to justify violence (whether organized by the state or street violence) against vulnerable people, because Nazis are cowardly bullies looking for someone to pick on to feel strong. It ignores (or glamorizes) the entire history of slavery and colonialism, and it makes sweeping generalizations about people based on idiotic stereotypes grounded in racist eugenics bullshit.

        But it had appeal in Germany because it provided a simple explanation for why conditions were declining, and it allowed people to redirect feelings of frustration or grief into anger and hate - while at the same time dividing the working class and getting people to oppose left-wing reforms that would’ve eased their burdens. At the same time, it was amenable to existing power structures, because most of the people in positions of power were white, and kept their power in the transition to fascism, while at the same the Nazis could pretend to be enacting “socialist” policies by nationalizing minority-run businesses.

        On the one hand, I hate that I even know what they believe, but I guess there’s some utility in knowing the enemy in order to better fight them and better predict their movements.

        Fuck Nazis.

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    7 months ago

    The UPS driver for my old office building told me trumps not racist or even appealing to racists , he wants to build the wall because there’s an underground supercomputer in Mexico thats going to open a portal to hell and flood the world with demons.

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    I make a YT channel about bizarre conspiracy theories. I keep coming back to the people who make videos claiming that 5G is actually a deadly weapon on their 5G Iphone 16. Nobody has more cognitive dissonance than these guys.

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      It’s amusing seeing some of the ones that were only even really plausible (and I use the term loosely) for a brief time hold traction after that time has passed. Like the 5G ones where even if you ignore the whole technical side of it, it was a possibility before it was deployed but now it’s out there. If it was turning people into zombies or whatever, it would be doing that right now. Or if not, then what are they waiting for?

      Or covid vaccines. Yeah, when they were first being sent out, there were potential unknowns and it was possible that they were RNA coded to do who knows what instead of just giving improved immunity to covid. I have no idea how I’d even check on something like that other than seeing what happens when someone is injected with it. But lots of people were injected with each of the vaccines. And though some issues popped up, I don’t think there was an evil plan to give like less than 1 in 100 generally minor and temporary heart issues that the actual virus also gave (but generally worse). But I still see profiles on tinder that say they prefer someone unjabbed. What timeline do they think this conspiracy is operating on? “Get a covid vaccine and you’ll likely be dead within 100 years!”

      And the funniest (saddest?) part is that there are real conspiracies. Like there’s clearly a push to turn the world fascist happening right now as the billionaire class positions itself to control how society transitions into a world where not nearly the same amount of labour is required. There’s been a group aiming to suppress information about climate change and our way of life’s role in it. Russia and China both aim to no longer be 2nd fiddles to the western world, which itself isn’t the benevolent ruler it likes to pretend to be. Science closes in on solving aging but the amount of people who read this message and will have access to it are likely under 1% (unless some kind of eternal servitude setup is developed). Almost everything about our society is set up to funnel wealth to the privileged few and conservatives almost openly sabotage public services whenever they are in power. Police brutality won’t get fixed because the ruling class benefits from the enforcer class being hated by the general public–otherwise they might band together and then the rulers would be fucked. Oh, and as much as conservatives like to bitch about immigrants (illegal or not), you never them suggest going after those who employ them unless it’s the tech companies who follow the legal route. All the illegal immigration talk isn’t about stopping it but about gaining more control over them while continuing to exploit them.

      You don’t need lizard people or aliens for a good vs evil kind of narrative. Elon Musk being human doesn’t make him a good human or anyone’s friend.

    • win95@lemmy.zip
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      7 months ago

      Sounds like you make content I’m interested in. What’s your channel called?