• UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world
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    The early 80s will happen again until the late 90s come back, So Reagan then Clinton. Crime will go up, Graffiti, homeless etc The rent is skyrocketing like when Reagan took over. The economy works when the middle class does well and we can’t keep funneling the money higher up. When the middle class can afford a home and cooperations stop buying them up to lease that might help.

    The upper class: keeps all of the money, pays none of the taxes. The middle class: pays all of the taxes, does all of the work. The poor are there…just to scare the shit out of the middle class." -George Carlin’

    That’s the way the ruling class operates in any society: they try to divide the rest of the people; they keep the lower and the middle classes fighting with each other so that they, the rich, can run off with all the fucking money. Fairly simple thing… happens to work…" -George Carlin

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      9 months ago

      Yo fuck the middle class, everyone should be thriving if their working. I’m tired of all this middle class shit… what about all the people living in poverty?

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        People who work full-time jobs used to be middle class. Living wages, affordable housing, yearly vacations, etc. Now, working people are still in poverty.

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          People who work full-time jobs used to be middle class. Living wages, affordable housing, yearly vacations, etc.

          When?

          Do you call camping in a campground a “family vacation” ? because that’s as far as my family had growing up in a pensioned job. We never could afford air travel, fancy new TVs, new cars… our house was very basic, we always drove beaters, we spent years without one thing or another to make it work.

          This isn’t the current generation, or the last one, this was even earlier.

          Just trying to understand when this idea that anybody in any job could have the white picket fence and world class quality of life was somehow a reality. I don’t think that’s ever been the case for the poorest full time workers or even the bottom 50%.

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            Do you call camping in a campground a “family vacation” ?

            I would…

            Sure, we never had the latest and greatest, fixed stuff ourselves and such, but we lived in a home that my parents owned and never really wanted for anything. That, to me, feels like a middle-class upbringing, and is what I’d like to be able to provide my own kids when I have them. However, right now the prospect of owning my own home seems increasingly far-fetched.

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              Campgrounds are everywhere and one in under a 2 hour drive is very doable throughout your whole life for a family vacation. You won’t lose access to that.

              Housing costs will swing back. We’re around the point where we were in the last housing market crash. Prices are at the edge of affordability for the middle class. Mortgages are higher than what can be rented. One market course correction and a ton of people lose their houses and the market collapses again.

              They’re doing everything they can to try and stop the collapse but homes are still increasing in price way more quickly than wages. Just a matter of time.

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                  weird, my single mom driving beaters could afford short driving trips (2 hours is short to me.) We did mostly go to a campground that was less than 15 minutes drive away from home though.

                  We heavily used food pantries though, literally every single week. No air conditioning, bunny ears on our simple tv, school bus rides to school. We even went a couple years without hot water when our hot water heater broke down just boiling water on the stove.

                  Everyone’s experience is different though. Though I was in one of the poorest families in my hometown. None of my aunts, uncles or parents own their own home today and they’re 50s and 60s now. The sacrifices of growing up in a wealthy middle class town will enable me to buy a house. Going to see an open house in 35 minutes!

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            It was real for a small sliver of white people in the US based on wealth extraction of the rest of the world for like 15 years in 1950 and they never let it go

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          Na fuck that, it’s always middle class this and middle class that and the fact is the middle class couldn’t give a fuck about the cashier at Costco living paycheck to paycheck with no Healthcare or enjoyment in their life.

          I have solidarity with every worker but as soon as the middle class gets theirs they will abandon us.

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        Everyone in America is middle class. You can be lower middle class or upper middle class, but you’re never not middle class.

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      Middle class does all the work? LOL They are mostly fucking leeches making useless shit and legitimising the upper class. Also they are a minority.

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        The problem here is that everyone has a different definition of “middle class”.

        I think you’re using the definition of “middle management”, and Carlin was using the definition of “working class”. The lower class would be the poor who have less than full time employment (inconsistent or on welfare, etc), and “the rich” would be people who don’t actually have to work for a living.

        The terms are inconsistent.