You know because arms industry has arms they can use to threaten and kill us
Some of us have been, since the 2000’s if not earlier (can’t speak to that personally.)
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Exempt from international climate agreements and rarely scrutinized in mainstream reporting, the Pentagon is the world’s single largest institutional polluter—spewing carbon, contaminating water, and scarring landscapes across the globe. Combining investigative journalism, striking visuals, and stories from impacted communities, this film challenges audiences to rethink the hidden costs of a global military empire and its planetary consequences. Provocative, urgent, and eye-opening, this is a documentary that will change how you see both the military and environmentalism.
The complaints about the arms industry/the cost of war has been around since recorded history.
AI server farms has only been around for a few years.
People protesting agains the arms industry will generally focus on the bigger problem, which is all the people being killed.
“Stop murdering people” is probably a more powerful message than “Stop wasting resources on murdering people”.
This makes me wonder if some people are using the power usage issue to attack AI in general.
Using a massive negative of AI to attack AI is confusing to you?
What’s confusing to me is why the power energy negative is being used only to attack AI
It’s not? Power draw and efficiency has always been used as a major negative to a lot of things, it’s why we have more power efficient devices now. AI is consuming this power for what exactly? It’s entirely pointless, only there to enable a circular economy among mega-corporations.
But that’s beyond the point here…
It’s entirely irrelevant if something is a negative to one thing and not another. When talking drawbacks for something, there isn’t a list you have to pick from, they are going to be specific to it.
I want to rephrase what the other person commented a bit friendlier. If power usage was not an issue it would likely not be attacked as much. Same goes for bit coin. Both would still have issues. Output that appears better than it use leading to inappropriate or non reviewed use (law documents and such) for the one and just a programmed scam (currency programmed to inflate in value while holding no actual value)
Because for people in the imperial core, AI slop invading every part of the internet and making it viscerally worse is more visible and tangible than imperialism destroying lives and the environment (mostly) abroad.
Speak for yourself I’ve BEEN complaining about the wasted resources not to mention the evil nature of the arms industry
People have protested the military industrial complex for decades and centuries. Possibly even millennia.
YOU not being aware of it is different from it not happening.
Stop the false equivalency and whataboutism.
Well that escalated
People have protested the military industrial complex for decades and centuries.
Here on lemmy i’ve seen more people cheering up at europe’s rearmament than i’ve seen complaining about the military industrial complex power waste.
Europe is supporting Ukraine in an existential fight for their lives.
This is far different from wanting to generate a false naked picture of some person.
Europe is supporting Ukraine in an existential fight for their lives.
European governments are supporting ukraine government in multiple ways including sending them weapons, this has not much to do with european countries boosting their already over the top military budget.
This is far different from wanting to generate a false naked picture of some person.
I would argue that generating a false naked picture of someone is less harmful for humanity than spending the same amount of energy to develop a weapon designed to murder other human beings.
yeah the crazy mileag of tanks and when they talk about how much every flight of a warplane costs its not just personelle. I guess its sorta good we have nuclear ships.
This is all true.
Plus the pointless murdering of humans.
I live in a Catholic country. Well, I know, countries can’t have religions. Let’s say that the élites impose the marketing and propaganda of that corporation. Every year, they block the streets with massive far-right demonstrations. People dressed as KKK wander the streets burning candles which cost thousands in manpower to clean. On the other hand, when I was younger, people would freely gather at night to have drinks in the street squares. They would litter a lot. The press used to create a great problem about the people drinking but not about the people dropping candle wax.
Pollution, as crime, is only a political concern when it’s done by the lower classes
I mean I’m also pissed about the war industry wasting our precious resources on death and destruction. I can be pissed about multiple things! The depths of my hatred for capitalism are literally limitless! It’s just that the “death and destruction part” dominates my opposition of the industry.
Because you get accused of wanting all Ukrainians to die if you oppose the mainstream narrative. And before that it was about being against freedom or something.
All mainstream media stands together to brainwash people for the military industrial complex.
Because war industry is an old story and killing people mostly happen in global south which is benefitting capitalist core so average liberal/conservative just see it as benefit and jobs. AI is new and trendy boogeyman and it’s at home.
Ai is new and added on top of that. Most of us have realized we aren’t gonna stop the military industrial complex unless there is a revolution
Ok let me try a different angle. I think the reason why AI is such a hotly debated topic right now is that AI is something that influences the lives of white westerners directly, while war is an abstract concept for most. To put it more bluntly, you’re in contact with AI stuff every day, but there are no tanks rolling down your street (yet - but that might change soon).
Stopping or curtailing the former could viably be done through regulation in a ‘liberal democracy’ and is thus conceivable to libs, stopping the latter would require huge change in the management of states and their interrelations which the lib mind cannot/does not want conceive
The Military Industrial Complex has been normalized over centuries. Humanity just can’t stop killing each other. It’s an instinct that evolved to be helpful to survival at one point thousands of years ago but may actually mean the end of humanity soon.
AI and all of the resources it consumes have not yet been normalized to anywhere near the level of “Defense”.
Give it time and average humans will care just as little about all the resources consumed by AI as they care about all the resources consumed by war. Unfortunately I seriously doubt that it will go the other way around and humans will suddenly start caring more about the resources consumed by the Military Industrial Complex. That ship has sailed…
Humanity just can’t stop killing each other. It’s an instinct that evolved to be helpful to survival at one point thousands of years ago
Killing other humans is not an instinct at all. Self defense when threatened is an instinct, people get tricked by these in power to feel in danger and to kill others.
