• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
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      23 hours ago

      just a business phrase.

      Much more than a phrase. A hypothesis at least, maybe a theory. It could be observed, measured, and it was true for many years.

        • MotoAsh@piefed.social
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          19 hours ago

          It’s literally not, but you go ahead and feel smart for lack of reading comprehension!

          • Victor@lemmy.world
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            17 hours ago

            Kind of rude? It feels like it’s close, no?

            Could you explain in detail why it isn’t? Because from what I see:

            1. The curve was accurate for some time, but innovation doesn’t really follow mathematical formulas, so the thesis would seem preposterous in hindsight, to me anyway.
            2. The appeal to tradition fallacy seems to be defined as just that? — Just because it’s been like that for some time doesn’t really necessarily mean it’s true. Right?

            Why is this lack of reading comprehension? Please explain, if you would. Thank you kindly.

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              16 hours ago

              Lack of reading comprehension because they never claimed it was intended to literally be a physical law or an actual scientific theory meant to describe reality. Just shared charicteristics with those things, which they already listed. (falsifiable, measurable, etc)

              Again, nobody is making an appeal to tradition to say Moore’s Law is literally a physical law or was ever meant to be one.

              It was only ever called a “law” because it was hilarious that such a nigh off-hand postulate turned out to be even close to reality.

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                8 hours ago

                So even if it would’ve been called “Moore’s thingamabob”, it was never really intended as a real theory? It was only like, tongue-in-cheek the whole time?

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                    7 hours ago

                    I guess that’s one of the reasons why it was spoken of for so long — the fact that it remained somewhat accurate for longer than expected.

                    But anyone who is a computer scientist or programmer or anything close to that should know that continuing to double anything grows out of hand very quickly, even if you double it only once a year. 😅

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                16 hours ago

                It amuses me that you fail to comprehend what ad antiquitatem is about and attempt to mock others in the process.

                Do go on, I’m bored.

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      24 hours ago

      I suspect it may be something midway between those things. The shape of the curve is the same as the shape of the curve of growth of most biological systems. There are physical laws that make Moore’s Law a reasonable short-term hypothesis.

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        24 hours ago

        Eventually to maintain the law we would have to make the item bigger so it can contain more transistors. Which defeats the spirit of the law which is miniaturisation.

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          24 hours ago

          biological systems also become bottlenecked. Unbounded growth does not exist in reality. The actual curve is the sigmoid. We’ve just only been seeing the first half of the curve.

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          16 hours ago

          Reading Moore’s paper (which is the reference of the marketing person who coined the term), Moore’s law isn’t just miniaturisation, it was also an observation that’s the economics would improve. ie that building N transistors is cheaper on the next smaller node than the previous.

          And without the economics working, the shrinking would never have occurred at the rate it did for so long.

          So yes, it getting bigger would be against the spirit of the law.