I only want to use it for facebook marketplace, but jeez i didnt know they were taking it this far with this crap…

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      Facebook marketing across high schools and colleges is intense. And because it’s such a pivotal platform, you kinda need to get one and build up a - let’s call it a social credit score - just so you can endure admittance counselors and employers demanding to see your account as part of the screening process.

      Sort of like getting a credit card as a teenager so you can prove you’re credit worthy enough for an apartment or car loan in your twenties. You just have to post generic mundane bullshit on the timeline and join generic mundane groups so people see you as “normal”.

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    This information goes right to the US government.

    Anyone who doesn’t think Facebook is an arm of the US government is naive at best.

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    wdym? facebook automatically showed us it used facial recognition at least as far back as 2007 by asking us to click boxes on faces and subsequently asking us to label them… We really did all of the heavy lifting for them. -I got out while i could in ~2018

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      I never got in, and I stopped letting people take pictures of me so they couldn’t put me on there either.

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    I went to create an account a while ago. When I saw this, I was this close to sending them a picture of my dick and balls. But I thought myself better than these fucking creeps who insist on knowing how many wrinkles our ass has.

    Thank you for the session. Same time tomorrow?

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        I assume Zuck has a partner but I don’t care enough about him to check. Gotta upload a totally legit ‘verification selfie’… an AI image of his partner with a dick. That’ll show him

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    Delete Facebook and problem solved. Here, where I live, we have websites for marketplace and website for concerts.

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    I don’t even use facial unlock on my phone. I enter the pin every time.

    Unfortunately, to access the Social Security site, I was required to send a picture of my face and driver’s license. So, I suppose Trump will sell that to whoever want’s to buy it now.

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      if you’re using an iphone, the avoidance is just your own inconvenience. face id on iphone all happens locally, on a dedicated security chip in your phone. id be much more concerned with having any pictures of myself on google photos

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    It’s been like that for quite a while. I remember deleting all big-tech accounts in 2019, and shortly after, Facebook started requiring login for full public page access. Therefore I created a burner account using a ‘this person does not exist’ picture, which provided me short-lived access after manual review. For account recovery, I was required to supply additional selfies (or even video-selfies?), but at that point I gave up.

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      THIS!

      I tried this to get an account. This was back in 2021. My account was deleted immediately. Probably a mixture of name and face. Maybe. But F that.

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        Yeah, I think they employ a pretty sophisticated bot detection algorithm. I vaguely remember there being this ‘make 5 friends’ objective, or something along those lines, which I had no intention of fulfilling. If a new account, having triggered the manual reviewing process, doesn’t adhere to common usage patterns, simply have them supply additional information. Any collateral damage simply means additional data, to be appended to Facebook’s self-profiling platform… I mean, what else would one expect when Facebook’s first outside investor was Palentir’s Peter Thiel?

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      One wit responded to such requests for ID by sending in a picture of an id with pharoh ramsey’s mummy’s picture, birthdate thousands bc.

      I never agreed to give them my personal information. My emails forced me to, locking me out of accounts I needed to access.

      I now found alternative email that doesn’t need a phone number or linked other email. I am quitting every site that tried to force me to link my phone number, real name, likeness, id, address, anything like that, without a valid reason.

      Amazon just demanded I verify my account again, same ip, same account I’ve used for years. Verifying under the email I abandoned for forcing my phone verification periodically, that would lock me out of my accounts if I lost my phone or it’s service. Trying to make good on my threats to quit them too.

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        My emails forced me to, locking me out of accounts I needed to access.

        Microsoft had me fill this form, to “prove” I was the rightful owner of the account, after some suspicious login-attempts from an African country. The form included fields like: name (I don’t think I supplied at creation, or a false one), other email addresses, previous passwords (which potentially yield completely unrelated passwords), etc.; only for the application to be rejected and locking me out of my primary email for a full month. After that outright violation, I immediately switched to Disroot, and haven’t had any of said problems ever since. I backup all its contents locally using Thunderbird, and delete the origins from the server afterwards.

        Many platforms have this messed up dark pattern, of revoking one’s access to a real-world dependencies, unless giving in to the service’s demands. Enforcement of 2FA is another one of those “excuses” for this type of misbehavior, and so is bot-detection.

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    I see a lot of people saying “just don’t use it”. If it was that easy…

    In some places, FB has took the lion share of the 2nd hand online selling. Historical platforms are in agony and your chance of finding a buyer/seller dramatically reduce if you avoid FB maretplace.
    In some places, FB is so common that schools, activities etc. are organized on FB. You don’t have an account, no worry: you’ll be the lone idiot to drop your kid at school the day it’s closed because of a snow storm.
    In some places, FB is the personal life blogging platform. So if you want to know about old friends you’ve left behind as you were relocating to different countries, you’re going to miss on some quite important events (death in the family, etc.) as that’s where they let people know.
    In some places, if you want to build a network, that’s where “everyone” is. You like trekking and want to find a group for that? They’re all on FB. You want to play board games? Groups are all on FB.

    The list goes on and on.

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      Right, when you apply for jobs, they want socials and indeeds and this and that, when you meet people they want to add you on Facebook. These are “private” companies, but because they are natural monopolies, they essentially become quasi-required parts of being able to function normally within society.

      The right way to deal with this is to regulate the fuck out of the natural monopolies, but rich elitists who own the government by proxy and big surveillance tech have this symbiotic relationship where big tech surveils and secretly data mines the public (to blacklist and exclude potential risks to the system and monitor those people) and so it won’t happen.

      Republicans, hurt most by the blacklisting initially, were most likely to regulate big tech, ironically, but now money and ass-kissing of Republican leaders has changed the game and no one will fucking regulate them. All politicians who allow this to happen are either weak or whores, being paid to just perform a role of politician.

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        I’ve job hopped a lot, and literally no company has ever asked for my social media besides indeed, which I keep sterile clean. Actually, they’ve never even specifically asked for that either, that’s just where I’ve applied through.

        Our industries may differ though.

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        All you do is tell them you do not have an account. I have told hundreds of people this and guess what? I work and have friends and am still living. Can you believe it?

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      Bullshit. I have never used facebook and I have never had an issue where I needed to.

      If you are selling second hand, use a different platform. No one is making you use marketplace.

      There are online portals, calendars, and even emails that notify parents of students and events.

      You can call you friends and find out how they are doing. You can also email to keep in touch. Stop posting everything about yourself and the internet and you should be telling your friends the same.

      You are just making excuses as to why you need it in your life and I have never had to use it for anything since its inception.

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        That’s the new version of “it works on my computer” as an answer to people reporting bugs.

        If you are selling second hand, use a different platform. No one is making you use marketplace.

        You just lost access to 90–95% of buyers/sellers. How is it going?

        There are online portals, calendars, and even emails that notify parents of students and events.

        Great! All I need to do now is to convince the school to use them because beat me: I’m not in charge of their communication systems…

        You can call you friends and find out how they are doing. You can also email to keep in touch

        You must have misread. I do exactly that.

        Stop posting everything about yourself and the internet and you should be telling your friends the same.

        You must have misread: at no point did I write that I was posting anything. But I certainly don’t dictate my friends what they should and shouldn’t do.

        You are just making excuses as to why you need it in your life and I have never had to use it for anything since its inception.

        “It works on my computer.”