• Nia [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If the launch of these is anything like the original launch, I think I’ll pass on this one too. That launch experience trying to get ahold of one really soured me on the PS5

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      I’m in the same boat. I used that money and saved a bit more and just built my first gaming PC.

      I still want to play Ghost of Tsushima but I will not buy a PS5 just for that game. Don’t think I’m going to buy any more consoles in the future, sadly. The last release soured me on these releases too.

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        In early 2021 I, like so many people, wanted to build my first gaming pc. As I’m sure you can guess, I had a hell of a time trying to get my hands on a decent graphics card. In the end I purchased a prebuilt pc. The whole gpu buying attempt was so stressful and giving up was so disappointing. Should I never try to build a pc in the future? Of course not! Mostly I learned to be patient and accept that I might not get exactly what I want. The large PS5s are currently readily available, just get one of those.

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          It’s not just the lack of availability but that was a part of it. Microsoft and Sony’s lack of proper response is part of the reason.

          I remained “patient” to some extent as I only just got to build my PC this year. The GPU “shortage” was a part of it too.

          But I felt that Sony and Microsoft could have done more for customers. Sony had a program to get actual PS users a PS5 but that too was still sold out. Scalpers had no issue buying pallets of consoles but actual fans couldn’t. It was insane.

          But besides that, I’ve since realized that, at least for myself, a PC is the better way to go. Consoles are a waste of money for me in the long run as a PC will be used for more than just gaming and the longevity of the parts and upgradeability is incomparable. I likely wouldn’t have felt this way had I just been able to get a PS5/Xbox Series X like I wanted.

          But Microsoft and Sony don’t seem to care about their actual fans and them getting consoles in their homes, which is what soured it for me. Though, yeah, same could be said about Nvidia and AMD as well to an extent too, but there are more manufacturers under them that make the actual cards and you had some like EVGA that had programs that tried to get a GPU in actual customers’ hands and not the greedy scalpers.

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          The thing i like most about pc is the wide array of games that require different specs. I have a pretty powerful pc but I could easily entertain myself with the lowest end pc.

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        Funnily enough same for me, I already had a prebuilt gaming PC but after spending the time trying to get ahold of the PS5, I just started saving and made my first PC build as an upgrade to what I already had, feel like it was the better choice in the long run.

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        Ditto. I skipped PS5. Would have bought one, but they wanted to play games with their customers, so…

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    Wait a second, you can add on the Bluray drive to the slim PS5? Meaning you’re not locked in to an all-digital console, but you can still upgrade later? That’s a great idea, why is no one talking about this?

    Sony finally gets to join the ranks of add-on-disc-player consoles: the Sega Megadrive, the N64DD, and this… thing.

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      No one’s talking about it because it costs $30 more than just buying the physical version outright

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        It really feels like a FOMO relief for people who want to go all digital. Just in case you want to get discs later.

        In other words, Sony wants you to buy digital and don’t worry so much about it.

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      That’s a great idea, why is no one talking about this?

      Because why would you buy a digital PS5 and a blu ray drive when you can just buy the disc PS5 and not have to deal with an external blu ray drive?

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    Just in time for the only game Sony has put out to make owning a PS5 worthwhile! (Fingers crossed Spiderman 2 is as good as its predecessors.)

    EDIT - To be clear, spoken as someone who was lucky enough to get a PS5 on day 1 and almost never uses it. I like the Xbox controller and UI much better and… there just aren’t many good exclusives. And a lot of the ones that are good end up on other systems anyways.

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      You’re not wrong. In a year where there are entirely too many great releases on all consoles, I’ve only played two on my PS5 (Street Fighter 6 & Final Fantasy XVI)

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        To be fair, FF16 is on my list of games to play… but like you said, too many great releases at once. I figure by the time I get around to it, maybe I can get a price break.

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          As a die-hard, I bought it Day 1 and got my $70 worth. But after I 100%'d it and looked at my recently played, I realized the only other game was Chicory which I played around Christmas time…

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      Demon’s Souls is the first souls game that I have ever completed, I think it is an astounding part of the ps5 catalogue. Also, currently going through Ghost of Tsushima PS5 edition and at 4k60 that game is incredible.

      Those are 2 experiences that I loved that are only available on PS5.

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        Literally both games that came out on other consoles that the PS5 so you don’t actually need a PS5 to play either of them.

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          Are you talking about the original Demon’s Souls? From what I’ve heard, there are so many QOL improvements they can’t really be treated as the same game.

          Also, Ratchet and Clank made me happy to have a PS5 (at that time the PC release hadn’t been announced).

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            there are so many QOL improvements they can’t really be treated as the same game.

            there’s a few, but it definitely doesn’t make it a superior version or anything. Honestly Bluepoint did what Bluepoint does best and fucked with the lightning and color palette too much and the PS5 remake of Demon’s Souls loses a lot of what made the original’s aesthetic so great.

            The PS3 version of DS is better than the PS5 one.

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              Why does it feel like every remake messes with lighting? As if making things brighter means it looks better. Halo CE is another that gets blasted for ruining the anesthetic of the original.

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                “Graphics:” are the only thing consoles can actively advertise on since “graphics” are the easiest thing to showcase in a screenshot or video.

                It’s why so many gamers whine and complain about “graphics” being the most importnat thing that determines whether they buy a game or not, which I find completely asinine.

                Notice I put graphics in quotes a lot. That’s because I distinctly and separating graphics/fidelity and art direction/aesthetic. I would much rather take a great game with a unique art style and lower fidelity over a game that has good fidelity, but a bog standard boring art direction and a color pallete of mostly browns and grays where 90% of the budget went to visuals and not the gameplay or content.

                It’s why I pretty much don’t play modern AAA games. Year after year it’s just the same crap rehashed in a slightly differnet $60 package. Why would I buy Call of Duty 26 or Open World Collectathon But This Time There’s a Spider-Man Coat of Paint On It when I can play shit like Signalis or Crow Country or any of the Yakuza games or Nier or Antichamber or Death Stranding or Monster Hunter

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          I played through Demon’s Souls on a ps3 emulator and then the PS5 version. The PS3 version with a 60fps+1440p mod is great but the new version is still worth getting a PS5 for imo

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    So this is a de facto price increase? From a manufacturer that just reported a record high annual profit? 175GB (the slightly increased storage) hasn’t been worth $50 in years.

    This generation sucks. I was already annoyed that we probably weren’t going to see price drops with this or the Switch, but I certainly didn’t see a price increase for an unproven hardware revision coming.

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      At least for the US, the price increase is just for digital version. And honestly, I’m certain the old digital had a profit margin hit in comparison to the disc drive version. It was probably worth it to lock people out of discs. This version will have a disc drive attachment option, so they’ve just given up on their all-digital endeavor.

      Aside from that, $50 for 175 GB SSD isn’t a great value. The extra 175GB SSD is a significant increase. And for the disc version, that’s purely an upgrade.

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    Completely trivial point, but a non-USAist I don’t think I’ll ever stop finding the phrase “the Holiday Season” weird. If you mean Christmas because you want people to buy it as a Christmas present, then just say Christmas! I guess it’s to be non-religious but I just find it funny to say “the holiday season” to mean winter when the season that everyone goes on holiday is summer.

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      In the US, there are multiple holidays people get together for. Halloween (to a lesser degree), Thanksgiving, Christmas (or Hanukkah), New Years. Extended families will often get together multiple times for these and then not see each other again until the next year. Thanksgiving really kicks off the retail season with black Friday, but there’s also a lot of time off during the winter time from school and work.

      It really is a season with Christmas at the center of it. A lot of our “Christmas” songs don’t even mention Christmas. It’s just songs about winter.

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        That much makes sense, but when it’s companies releasing products they hope will be bought as Christmas presents then it’s just odd to hear them skirting round the word “Christmas”. Unless you guys buy each other PS5s for new year?

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          It’s also somewhat inclusive of Lunar New Year and Diwali. More broadly, it’s a public recognition that not everyone celebrates Christmas to make it clear they’re accepting of diversity.

          Maybe it’s the Canadian in me, but I don’t wish anyone a “Merry Christmas” unless maybe if I specifically know they celebrate Christmas; I almost always say “Happy Holidays!”

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          When I was a kid, it wasn’t entirely uncommon to get a big gift during a random holiday get-together.

          But I think “holidays” is more of a generic retail term used to get people to buy more and feel less limited.

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      I think of it like there’s more than just Christmas being celebrated at the end of the year, so to include them all it’s easier to just say the holiday season

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        Yeah I get it, it’s just one of those phrases that sounds weird to the non-American ear

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      Where I live we have a bunch of small holidays in the spring. Winter only has the one big one. Spring seems more the season for them

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    Good to see all the rumors finally confirmed, feels like there’s been speculation about a slim model since the PS5 launched. Hopefully, they’ve sorted out the worst of the supply issues and the PS5 Slim won’t be as hard to find as the PS5 was when it first launched.

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    Not much reason to replace my current one, but many reasons to pick up OG console covers now if they’re going to be phased out in November.

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      They literally just announced three more cover colors, (got the announcement email yesterday), I doubt they’ll phase them out that quickly. Even if they decide to go fast, I’d think they at least be smart enough to wait until after the holidays.

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        Saw that but these won’t work on the new model so I doubt they make more. Unless of course they’re for the revision but I don’t know how that’d work with the new design.

        I’m flashing back to Xbox 360 faceplates.

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      Would you normally replace a perfectly functional console with a smaller but otherwise identical machine? Do what you want with your own cash but that’s a very decadent purchase!

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        Exactly- though I did trade up my OG PS2 for a slim back in the day. The OG had served its time (~5 years) and was ready to go.

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      Most of the extra size is from cooling. So it’s not surprising that someone could make it slimmer by messing with that.