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        You don’t inherit debt but they’re paid on the estate before inheritance.

        So you can’t get just debt as inheritance, but debt are only lost for the creditor if the person who died had a negative net worth.

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          Exactly. You don’t inherit debt, because you can’t inherit stuff the person was only borrowing.

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              My dad did this. Was almost 70k in unsecured debt at the time of his death. I gave most everything away except his fishing stuff. He had so much shit.

              Only one credit card company said “it’s good you are taking over the payments”. Told her I never agreed to that, just informing you of his death, and if they contact me again my Saul level lawyer is going to enjoy that lawsuit. Never heard from them.

              Don’t ever assume the debt of someone else.

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                Aw damn, I’m glad you knew better, that’s downright predatory and should be illegal. You know there are people out there now paying their parents’ credit card bills, thinking that that’s just how things are. I hope that when those people find out, they are entitled to getting every penny back with interest.

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    Would be kind of funny to see the different stats that would change if a family was able to pass on the full account. Like maybe one child didn’t give a fuck about games (outside of just signing in here and there to keep it alive and update stuff like email and security) and no other activity. But then their kid goes hard into games and see the gaps of time. There would be lots of accounts that may have super awkward stuff like hentai visual novels. lol. But seeing some stupid high amounts of achievements and total hours of play time would be neat.

    But not exactly shocking that these digital accounts would not have the ability to go much past your death. Unless we see the very deep change of all companies allowing people to remove a game and basically “gift” it. Which I can’t see happening. Even physically having discs/carts hits a limit after so long. Normal wear of use and the material rotting does mean it is likely those would also not survive past a couple of generations. And that ignores the same issues afflicting the consoles needed to play the media.

    So basically the real solution to both the digital and physical passing games (or music/movies) is to rip DRM-less copies and keep the needed tools to either use the game without having the disc or needing to register to a server that is likely gone. Might be a good idea to leave ReadMe instructions along with the iso/rom and copies of the official and community patches that help with new OSes. After that it is basically just down to needing virtual machines or some other PC emulators to run old emulators.

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        It is bullshit tho. I feel like for how massive these libraries are, I should be able to do that. Even if it requires a death certificate to make the transfer.

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          This is what steam is: a lesser form of ownership in exchange for the perks of the platform. I’ve come to prefer physical media first, DRM free second, and steam third. It’s just not as good of a value proposition to me compared to outright ownership (of the license to use the software, I know we don’t own “the game”).

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            (of the license to use the software, I know we don’t own “the game”).

            No, you don’t own the copyright, but you do own your individual copy. Don’t fall for the “licensed, not sold” self-serving propaganda.

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            Physical media today isn’t really much better though, increasingly frequently all a disk gets you is a license to activate a digital copy anyways, with a “must be online for first play” requirement.

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              That’s exactly how I ended up with a steam account. Bought a Civ V cd and the game isn’t on the cd, just an installer for steam and a key.

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          Add it to the list of ethical circumstances for piracy.

          In fact, for the titles I cared about, I would contact the studio/publisher themselves, explain the situation, send a death cert and a steam account, and see if they would allow a transfer or grant a new key. If not…they’re part of the problem.

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      They can’t, but if you don’t give you password and safety codes away before you die they can’t legally let you transfer ownership of the games. Just don’t tell them and arrange for all your emails, security keys, and 2FA keys to be safely transfered to your children.

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    Highly doubt this would hold up in court, but then again no one has challenged these digital market places. If you buy the game on their platform it should be legally yours and you can do what you want with it.

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    How will they control if someone other continue with your account when you die?

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        I can’t be the only one that puts their age as 1st Jan any random year in the 1920s instead of taking the time to put my real age in to view new games coming out. Steam already thinks I am near death.

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      Same as any other illegality. It’s legal until you get caught. The account will work fine until for one reason or another it becomes obvious you’re not the original owner of the account, and then it’s banned. Billing changes, location changes, ip changes, confession, etc.

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        Maybe some generations later in the future it becomes suspicious. Valve want gain money and there is no reason that it will deep investigate if the downloads are still paid from the same account and paid with the same banc account, irrelevant if it’s from a different IP or ISP, that are things that can change even with the same user (transladet to other city, changing provider or PC, etc).

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          But imagine if the original owner bought Skyrim, and then you have to buy it again if you want to play it. Two Skyrim moneys!

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    I wouldn’t suppose that people are required to inform steam that they’re dead. Therefore, I’d assume the easiest way to bequeath games/DLCs, etc, is to get a wishlist from your loved ones, and then gift all of those games prior to death on a credit card that you might not be able to pay, due to being dead. Steam gets the money, the CC company gets shafted. Alternately, share your credit card details with a loved one and that list, and have them order within hours of your death (this depends on whether or not you were plausibly alive when those CC transactions took place)

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    Damn…makes me want to take the time to pirate games I already bought and own…

    And then write it in my will that those who inherit my few earthly possessions have to play through each of my games at least once in front of a lawyer in order to receive their inheritance. Lol, I kid, 😂…or am I 😈?

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      Why is the cc-by-nc-sa license disappointing? Is your disappointment exclusive to version 4.0?

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        Why is the cc-by-nc-sa license disappointing? Is your disappointment exclusive to version 4.0?

        My only disappontment is with those humans (and humans who use ““humans””) who side with AI model using corporations that steal other people’s content to train said models for profit, over regular everyday people.

        Anti Commercial-AI license (CC BY-NC-SA 4.0)