I watched this new whistleblower guys testimony and for the first time I actually believe what’s being presented. Elizondo comes off as a grifter/actor, but I don’t know. Something about this testimony feels honest and real. Not another complete embarrassment like Jake Barber / Skywatcher crew just trying to get a new show like skinwalker ranch going. Him talking about covert spy satellites making up a lot of UAP stuff made good sense to me, and some of the more incredible stuff like the Russians studying perhaps even interacting with UAP phenomena really made my jaw drop. Learning about the secret internet within the pentagon was really cool. It feels like a crime to withhold all that knowledge from the public though, But I don’t know anything. What do you smart people out there think is going on?

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    We’ll see, all this congressional testimony in skifs , laws drawn up for whistleblowers, video, etc seems like a giant waste of time / money if it’s ALL fake. Just curious do you guys just dismiss everything sight unseen or actually take the time to learn about new claims? I do think 99% are likely black projects, but I also think that the universe is so big that over the course of humanity some kind of space amoeba or drone or something has come by. And that is the kind of thing, if I was a government, that I’d want to control. I also don’t shut myself off from information just because a source isn’t verified yet, I like to give them a chance to present more. If you watch the gofast/gimbal/etc videos / pilots across the globe reporting anomalies, and don’t at least raise an eyebrow at the technology that WE apparently have, I don’t know. I think a lot of people don’t even want to pay attention because it would hurt their world view that they have everything figured out. That makes me a bit skeptical of your call to just not pay attention until there’s evidence. We had to fight for evidence for decades, many many times, that was only declassified 20-30 years later. Going through history the gov has time and time again covered big things up until presented in court with video/photo evidence or the results of physical harm crop up - and only then would own up to it. I think we’re going to get incontestable proof within the next 5-10 years, but we’ll see.

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    They’ve always got evidence that they’re going to show us… soon.

    Not today.

    But soon.

    They can’t say when.

    Only that it’ll be soon.

    Soon.

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    Unfortunately it’s never aliens.

    I always assume any UAP are just some military tech or misinterpreted data. Would be nice if it were aliens though lol

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      I don’t think it’s a distraction. I think it’s people who are too bought in on conspiracy theories and desperately want there to be some kind of spy thriller conspiracy to uncover. They just really want the world to be less mundane and banal than it is, so they latch onto a single thread while ignoring the overwhelming weight of evidence.

      I think calling it a distraction is itself a conspiracy theory. Who is orchestrating this distraction? What are they supposedly distracting from?

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    We constantly scan the whole orbit around earth, not only agencies, but also nerds. I’m talking about those super nerds who intercept NASA communication and keep it to themselves.

    If any alien spacecraft somehow got at cloud level, we would have detected it.

    Always remember: only 2 people knew about Kennedy‘s affair and we still knew about it.

    This sounds like misinterpretation of data to me.

    Edit: will watch sometime this weekend and might change my view.

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    I think there is no evidence. Witness testimony is not it itself sufficient evidence to convict someone of a crime, why should it be enough to convince you that physics-defying aliens exist in the universe and somehow, for some reason, came all the way across the galaxy/universe/whatever to… what… fly around and make pretty patterns in the sky?

    Do I believe there is other intelligent life in the universe? Yes, statistics alone suggests there should be.

    Do I believe it’s making crop circles and buzzing F-18s for giggles? Almost certainly not.

    Do I believe some guy saw absolute incontrovertible proof that aliens exist and somehow both failed to acquire any of it to present to the world and failed to be credible enough to be arrested or otherwise silenced by the people who care a whole lot about the leaking of classified info? Absolutely not, not under any circumstances.

    If aliens exist and are here and you’ve seen them then the best advice I can give you is next time grab a fucking button off a control panel, a blood sample, a piece of metal we don’t know how to make, like literally anything, because we’ve been drowning in bullshit witness testimony on this subject for most of a century now. I don’t care how credible you are, If 99.99+% of people who talk about aliens are crazy/hoaxers/attention-seekers/etc, the odds are pretty good you’re not the <0.01% who is totally legit. So without some actual, physical evidence I’m going to go ahead and assume that you’re a crackpot regardless of your credentials.