Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

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    Lemmy.world also has a reputation for censorship, what actually happens is different instances fall into different ideological camps and tend to defederate and remove/ban that which does not affirm the dominant ideology of the instance. Lemmy.ml gets a bad reputation from Lemmy.world and adjacent communities because Lemmy.ml is far more broadly federated and thus removes more rulebreaking content, generally.

    Recognizing bias is a necessary part of the fediverse experience, everyone is biased in some direction and defederation provides a more subtle means by which to “censor.” One could say Lemmy.world has banned all of Hexbear through defederation, which is more heavyhanded than Lemmy.ml ever has been. All this means is that Lemmy.world is more subtle with its own censorship and Lemmy.ml more overt.

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      Thank you, I mostly just wanted to quickly point out the weaknesses of asking such a question here and only here, but I really appreciate your reply. I was not in a position to elaborate at the moment, so I really do appreciate someone else elaborting & providing additional perspectives, and while we may not necessarily see eye to eye, I think you’ve pointed out some differences (in a relatively neutral way) that are important for users to be aware of when they navigate the various instances.

      While I’m posting from .world, this was never intended as my “primary” account. My “primary” account was on kbin, and now that I’ve accepted that kbin isn’t coming back, I’ve been wanting to move somewhere else for my main account, but life + ADHD + too many choices has been getting in the way of that, and many other things I need to do. I hate signing up for things, so I’m hoping my next instance will be a good fit for me for a good while.

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      Lemmy.ml gets a bad reputation because they treat disagreement, trolling, and bigotry as interchangeable. They never seem to mind their own users twisting any argument beyond recognition - but sighing ‘I don’t want to deal with this anymore’ is unconscionably rude and must be punished.

      Ideological bias is not the same thing as hypocritical enforcement of bad rules. And ‘be nice or else’ is a fucking terrible rule, no matter how consistently it’s applied. Sometimes “fuck off” is the right answer. Sometimes people really are assholes, and deserve to hear it, and the hierarchy of a leftist space declaring themselves the only people allowed to exercise that force is deeply ironic.

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      I got banned from a community for saying I wasn’t going to call a vagina a front hole. Apparently that’s transphobic.

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        No, you were banned for being bigoted because, checking the mod log, you are hostile to trans and disabled people and considered transwomen to be dangerous to ciswomen. Your mod log is public.

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          That’s not true at all - just because a mod writes it - doesn’t make it fact. I explained myself in those posts. Anything over in these instances is immediately deemed transphobic whether it is or not. If you don’t fall in line 100%, and want to have any kind of opinion - it’s immediately labeled transphobic and removed.

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                The mod log displays your comments and posts as they were when they were deleted. You can freely read what was removed and why.

                As for your comments now, they are again transphobic. “Overrepresentation” is a nonsense issue, your issue is that trans individuals are centered in media despite making up a minority of the population does not actually matter. Stories are not meant to center people perfectly proportional to demographics, such a mechanism ends up reinforcing existing power dynamics and plays into transphobia.

                Additionally, children learning that trans people exist is not going to “turn them trans” or harm them, just like children learning gay people exist will not harm them. This is more transphobic nonsense. Your opinions are removed because they are harmful and perpetuate transphobic narratives that directly harm trans individuals.

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                  Nobody is claiming that children are being ‘turned trans’…again with the shit where you guys put words in my mouth…every…single…time…

                  regular heterosexual shit should be kept away from children too. They don’t need to be introduced to that crap at such a young age. So here we are again, as a perfect representation of Lemmy.

                  You say something – and the ‘you’re a bigot’-brigade auto-completes what they THINK you mean, decide you’re being mean to them, and then attempt to shut you down. You cannot realistically have a conversation over here without it turning into…^^^^^ this.

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                    There’s a difference between understanding gender and romance, and understanding sex. Children are already exposed to romance and gender by virtue of existing in society, teaching them about non-conforming gender and queer attraction is perfectly fine and helps combat bigotry as children develop. Moreover, referring to heterosexuality as “regular” is further bigoted language, implying irregularity in queer sexualities, ie “unnaturalness.”

                    I think you would benefit greatly from speaking with trans individuals and queer people in general, the verbage of your opinions is harmful and your opinions are baked with latent dismissal of queer issued and uphold heteronormativity as something positive.