I care about my privacy, though I like it’s UI. Is it really as bad as some say?
Stop using chromium.
Yea I don’t think it’s bad for privacy, just there are better options out there which get you the same privacy while also addressing other issues? Issues like Chromium, history of controversies and shady behaviour (crypto, replacing ads with their own), the business model, and issues with the CEO.
Instead, why not just use standard Firefox? The only downside I’ve heard is that the default settings don’t do what Brave does when you first install each browser, but that’s a weak argument considering we all modify the settings anyway. Someone should just outline which Firefox settings should be flipped to match default Brave, and we can be done with the weekly ‘Why not Brave’ discussions
I use Firefox as my daily browser, and run Mullvad browser when I need to be cautious with a task.
Can’t, i need chromium extensions
Like what?
Well stuff like chromegle, there isn’t anything similar on Firefox, and there are just less extensions in general. Probably the dumbest reason but doesn’t change the fact that i need them
I’ll do it when Firefox gets a UI that looks modern.
edit - fine
I have officially switched back to firefox
OP is a man of his word.
Respect
This looks great
Oh man that’s slick as hell!
There’s nothing wrong with Firefox’s UI. I’ve been using it for years, along side Chrome and whatever else my work makes me use. For home stuff, I use Firefox, and I don’t notice any difference except they don’t incessantly track me.
Bruh you’re on Lemmy
I didn’t notice anything very different style wise when I switched. You can also add different themes like you can in chrome too.
Dark theme on most Linux distros looks clean with breeze or… whatever dark theme gnome users use. Quite nice, really. I’m cool with the angular look.
Boy, that’s a hot take
Honestly the lack of macOS native UI is a dealbreaker for me. I love Firefox to death but I can’t stand using non-native UI (on any OS).
It has an opt in option to sell ad space for some of its crypto. Some people just are offended that the option is even there.
Be careful, Brave marketing team is well known for disguising themselves as users and promote their bloated crapware via comments.
They overdid it in 4chan and ended up alienating the entire community.
Then they moved to Reddit but people already started seeing Brave for what they really are, a scummy company that has been caught redhanded way to many times to be trusted.
Now they are here on Lemmy, desperately trying to get more chumps under their ad machine before BAT hits 0 and their advertising partners lose all interest.
Just say no to Brave, there are way better browsers out there, with real privacy, that won’t make you look like a hateful brainwashed-by-politics piece of shit.
No, brave is not bad for your privacy. There has been some controversie but no dealbreaker so far imo.
If you’re on mobile I think brave has hands down the best UX (not necessarily UI but I like it a lot), on desktop I recommend firefox, which has a lot of custom themes to choose from (https://firefoxcss-store.github.io).
I personally like and use https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix
Oh for fuck’s sake brave
I like Firefox mostly because it’s cool to have engine competition. I mostly use the default dark theme. It looks good enough for me. I don’t look much at the top when browsing.
On android it’s still lagging behind the chromium competition. And having mismatched browsers isn’t great for syncing. So I just use Firefox on android too, good enough.
Tho, if miss matching wasn’t an issue, personally I think I would use Kiwi browser. It’s an open source chromium browser which supports chrome extensions.
It’s less about whether any individual thing they’ve done has been bad, more that they keep doing things and keep doing thm in sneaky ways. Every time something happened the CEO went on a marketing campaign and drummed up a bunch of new users to drown out the news story. They come across as shady, which gives the impression that it would take a relatively small sack of money for them to sell their users up the river.
Brave is better than some out of the box, but far from the best. I’d say Mull is better for mobile, which is a Firefox fork. It has a companion Android System Webview called Mulch.
YES, IT IS!
You should NOT trust Brave to not play fast and loose with your privacy. They already operate an advertising network (it operates on those stupid little BAT tokens) and they DO inject ads and affiliate links.
I strongly recommend Firefox1 or Librewolf.
1 - You must install plugins and apply user.js fixes yourself to properly harden Firefox completely against tracking; but this is doable.
Brave is an alternative. There are better alternatives but its better than chrome or edge
Why does this topic keep coming up?
Anything. 👏 Chromium. 👏 Based. 👏 Is. 👏 Bad.
If you give a shit, you’ll suck it up and change to Firefox or Mull. If your excuse for not doing so is UI based, your convenience is more important than your privacy.
Is there a better alternative on Android? I’ve tried switching to Firefox a few times but it feels way too slow. Scrolling and zooming (I do a lot of zooming on mobile) feels unusably choppy.
Looks smooth to me. In fact, as the only Android browser afaik that has support for ublock origin, Firefox is the only usable mobile option IMO.
bros using ff🤡. if you’re not literally using a terminal based text only browser on linux from scratch on a vm whose bare metal is disconnected from the internet and in a faraday cage in an underground bunker, your convenience is more important than your privacy.
Anything. 👏 Internet. 👏 Based. 👏 Is. 👏 Bad.
f i r e f o x.
i mean cmon
Yes.
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What are the biggest showstoppers?
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You could try to change the browser ID string that is sent with every request.
Ulaa Browser is pretty good on Android.
AFAIK no, but if someone has to say something about privacytests’s results (bad methodology? inconclusive?) I’m interested to know
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And… why aren’t people / you using ungoogled-chromium?
Not at all.
The brave criticisms you see are mostly hot takes about crypto(icrypto jokes are super coool as of '20) but brave(foss) is as good or better than Firefox, IE or safari in terms of privacy.
Firefox can nearly match that privacy with their options, but if you like brave, easier to stick with that.
Part of it comes down to trust. I just don’t trust Brave Inc long term - it may well be a private browser now but I don’t trust that in to the future. I don’t trust a company that Peter Thiel invests in. I don’t trust a company that has already been shady and caught redirecting traffic secretly for referrer codes. But I also don’t trust Google or Microsoft either.
I trust Firefox and Mozilla. I don’t like that they are dependent on Google revenue but I trust that they’re open and transparent about what they do, and not motivated or compromised by a desire to maximise profits for their venture capitalist investors.
Ah, thank you, distrusting Peter thiel is at least tangentially relevant and certainly understandable(thiel-creepy brave-trustworthy?)
I would choose Firefox before ie or safari, but Firefox also sells personalized ads and tracks your keystrokes.
I like foss, and I like smaller companies. When another privacy-based browser comes along after brave sells its soul or gets too popular, I’ll support them too.
Until then, brave is doing pretty good privacy-wise, especially compared to the mainstream alts.
They don’t like the guy.
