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      Heck, Obi Wan should’ve known more about Leia than Yoda. Maybe Yoda DID mean Ahsoka…

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        Heck so many jedi seemed to have survived order 66 he could be talking about dozens of em.

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          The new EU is actually better about this than the old EU. By the time A New Hope starts, there are just four surviving members of the Jedi Order; Yoda, Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, and Ezra. Ahsoka is thought to be dead and went to ground even better than Yoda and Obi after Malachor, and Ezra is in another galaxy. Ahsoka also isn’t a Jedi anymore and is developing a distinct philosophy.

          They’re also banking on having been wrong about the Chosen One, believing it’s one of the twins instead of Anakin. That they misinterpretted the prophecy completely is, of course, out of the question.

          • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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            Where does Kyle Katarn come into this? IIRC, those games were considered part of the EU canon before Disney got the rights. Technically not a Jedi; but he has Jedi (and Sith) powers and is also a good guy who had worked with the Rebel Alliance.

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              I’m no Jedi; I’m just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions.

              • Kyle Katarn

              He doesn’t become a Jedi until Luke trains him at the New Jedi Academy. Until that point, he’s “just” a force sensitive.

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              Most EU stuff was declared non-canon after the Disney acquisition, so I’m pretty sure Kyle isn’t canon anymore. However, the new Jedi Survivor games are seen as a spiritual successor to the Katarn games; Cal Kestis even uses some dark-side powers at the end of the second game. There are a few references to Kyle Katarn throughout the new canon.

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      It depends on when you’re asking the question. When this was filmed, for instance, Luke had a sister (regular, not twin) on the other side of the galaxy, just in case something happened to the real-life Mark Hamill. Once RoTJ rolled around, they needed to close off this plot thread so they reconnected the sister to be Leia. From RoTJ onwards, there’s not much wriggle room on who it could be. The ‘Leia is your sister’ scene in RoTJ is there to remove all doubt

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        I thought Luke and Nellith were meant to team up to fight Vader? And that the original was meant to span over about 8 episodes (ROTJ was meant to be just about the rescue of Han) but then Lucas went through the divorce and just wanted to wrap the series up, so he retconned Leia to be the sister.

        I wish we could have had the “Luke searches for and trains his sister” arc.

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          Nailing canon at this point in time is tricky. Every other week something would be canonised that decanonised something. Your version of events was also true at some point. Entire books have been written about the development process of the original trilogy