They said they use Debian, I assume it’s KDE2 or something.

I should have mentioned it more clearly that this could be a combination of bugs, not necessarily a Krita bug. Because this issue is not only with Krita, but many (or even all) XWayland apps. All Wine apps shared this too. So, the primary issue is that it needs XWayland instead of being Wayland-native.

I use Sway on Arch Linux, and Gnome on Fedora. I haven’t been doing anything on Fedora for years, as it’s a shared family computer and it has just one display. So, I expect it would be good there. To my memory, it was. I was trying various graphical things, even Photoshop and Illustrator with Wine, and they were mostly working too.

I think I could issue a DE for drawing sessions, when needed, if that solves the issue. So, thanks for mentioning that it’s issues-free on KDE. It’s more obvious to me now that actually Krita is a KDE thing, after all.

But, honestly, it feels the same as doing my hacky scripts to mitigate the bug. I’d love it to just work, that’s why I mention I hope it would be Wayland native one day.

The window is unresponsive to clicks, so the mouse never works. You can drag it to the main laptop’s screen, but my laptop is small and the external screen is big, so it’s not useful to have such an app opened on a tiny screen. There are workarounds, but having a native Wayland app is just much more useful than hacking around. Last time I checked (was quite a long time ago, up to a year ago) the development wasn’t too focused on Wayland. I hope they’d do at some point, as overall Krita is good.

Really great advice, was thinking of that myself recently. I’m considering making some GUI apps to address my terminal journeys. While I enjoy terminal, not everyone should.

My issue was that when run through XWayland, Krita would work only on the primary display (no concept of that in Wayland) with 0,0 coordinates. So, if I’m on a laptop, it would work only on the primary (laptop) screen, but not the external one. I have a script that reorganises my workspaces and makes the external display the primary one, then runs Krita. But it would never work on any other display, if I wanted to use that too, for some multi monitor setup.

I may want to try that again, perhaps that was some bug that was fixed. But I’m surely not going to use X instead of Wayland for Krita.

Last time I used it, it wasn’t ready for a Retina HiDPI screen (MacBooks since 2013), but I might want to double-check that. I remember the icons were pixelated. And I’m very sure it did not work on Wayland, which generates a bunch of weird bugs / issues for a multi-monitor setup. I never work with just one display. So, I can use it when I have to, but most times I prefer Gimp. Haven’t been opening Krita for over a year or so. Text editing is a gimp too. Apart from that, the interface wasn’t that bad as it is with Gimp, that’s for sure. Overall, I believe that’s actually a pretty nice program, Krita.

Hey, I tried it. Is it only themes in the settings, or should I do something else. The interface became a bit more aesthetically appealing, so a nice work on that regard. But my pain point is the panels and their very weird behaviour (like you do resize and they are too much all the time). I expect you cannot address that with a theme.

I’m going to keep it, so I may comment more some days / weeks later, if you will.

That looks much better, I’m going to try it, thanks for sharing!

Have you tried PhotoGIMP? The link is in the sibling comments. I wonder if the difference, my first time hearing of GMIC.

But their hands are shaking too much, so they aim, but at the wrong things. I wish any of them could find some UX designers. I forgot about the text editing in Krita, that was horrible indeed.

I’m same as you (7 years though), but I have Fedora as a family computer. I mostly like it. I used Fedora for a year almost exclusively a couple of years back, and I quite enjoy the experience as a macOS refugee. Tried Silverblue (immutable distro), it looks even better for an average folk, but I haven’t used it for a long time to comment on that.

Recently, a Fedora installation broke on me (bad kernel upgrade), and was so for a month, spanning 4 kernel upgrades. I had to manually boot into a working kernel (F8 during boot in grub), and remove the new kernel. I avoided updates till there was a newer kernel version, tried again, to no success. It took them a month to fix the regression, now it’s good back. The kernel versions were since 6.17.10 till 6.18.4, and time frame was since December 14th till January 12th this year. It was relatively trivial to troubleshot (I used ChatGPT for assistance, but I was knowledgeable of what I was doing).

I have no idea what would a regular new user do. I have no idea how a Silverblue version would handle this situation, I have a regular Fedora Workstation installed.

However, apart from that, I have been running Fedora without any issues for years. One computer runs about 5 years now. The other served me for a couple of years, now it’s Arch Linux server, but it had no issues at all.

I guess I’d avoid Ubuntu. I might have tried Bazzite (if for gaming) or Pop_OS! (for their Cosmic Desktop thing). I have no other distros in mind. I don’t like Debian, especially for a desktop, it’s too old, and running testing… well, I’d rather run Arch then.

Fedora has RPM Fusion, which is kind of AUR, so distros based on it should theoretically have it too. But I don’t have any first-hand experience with that.

What you meant is not simple, but rather familiar. While I agree, my mother used Windows for many years, but she forgot that experience partially, due to using iPad for like 15 years. So, Gnome is simpler for her, as it’s similar to her most recent experience.

My perception of Plasma is that’s too complex, even for me. While Gnome’s logic is very different, it’s not difficult to grasp, to be effective with it.

Anyway, if we’d go with the theme. Are there some you’d like to recommend? I’m still balancing between going with Gnome and teaching them it, and just going with the Plasma and making it similar to what they had.

The less options, the better for a new person to jump in. Modern Gnome is a DE I can recommend everyone. ‘It’s like Mac but simpler,’ I advertise it. I like it even as a pro user, though. But even if we, the pro users, couldn’t work with it, that’s okay. Many pro users hate modern Gnome, and use other environments. But having one with limited options and an opinionated design hurts nobody, and helps a lot. I can install it for an elderly parent or a friend, and they can use it without much assistance, as it’s not very far from their tablet or smartphone.

My bet is that there’s some weirdly complex things that become too niche edge cases that are difficult to transfer.

My opinion is when your logic becomes too complicated, maybe you want to have some sort of custom software. But, on the other hand, I understand that if it works already, there’s no need to break it either.