Yeah, people flipped out seemingly claiming he was killing the intuitive. And in the end the over reaction and excess of attention directed towards him brought more attention to the whole topic and the petition.

It’s like manufactured drama for a good cause. I’m not sure how I feel about that. 😅

Easy on the trigger man.

I think it mostly revolves around how you get 100 players together for a good game. The match making part. I’m skeptical of the quality of match making, but that’s not a showstopper for people committed to playing. But if we set aside the need for someone to maintain hosting, then it becomes peer to peer or a lan party, or a combination of the two.

I remember what it was like rounding up and wrangling 80 people to raid in WoW back in the day.

And none of this is a showstopper I don’t see why we can’t talk about that. It’s not like discussing the difficult edge cases or the feasibility of the details could harm things.

My initial question in this thread framed changing the game design, not networking stack. So it was about making it all local/same screen only. An absurd example on purpose.

Sounds like that’s the answer to my reply then. Not all this other noise people have posted. 😏

Man. Y’all really think I’m talking about networking design?

I thought we were talking about gameplay design. That’s why I picked 100 player battle royal.

“Change the game design” implies that, to me. I didn’t pick a single player experience with always online requirements. Or a 4 player game with online matchmaking and no direct connect options.

There’s such a strong, and obsessive need among a bunch of people on this topic to explain and explain, and not parse the precise thing being asked.

There’s also a lot of people who conflate having the opinion that the effort will fail due to its approach and the person/people behind it with not wanting it to succeed.

What I’m doing is poking at how people are behaving and how they talk about this initiative. And how the messaging is confusing and all over the place. It takes 5 people racing to explain it to me when I understand perfectly, and lay out a specific case. Yet no one replies to explain how my example would work.

I’m not the only one who sees this initiative as misguided, and mis framed.

Sorry for coming off like a troll, usually my outlier questions get responses instead of people acting like they are here.

I’ve really dug a bit too deep on this one, and I’ll try to stop replying now.

You guys…

I picked an actual “online only” example for a reason. Yet everyone is jumping around talking about other things.

Turning a battle royal into a lan only game sounds like the solution I was expecting in my replies. And then yeah, you can even route that over the internet.

But that’s not changing the design, really. It’s providing the infrastructure needed to run it, even if it’s lan only, and would need more to run it over the internet.

I mean, taking a 100 person battle royal and changing it so dramatically would be quite odd to do.

I picked an extreme example for discussion reasons.

Of course it’s not. That’s why I made my initial reply.

That fighting game is not online only, I bet.

I replied to someone saying that an online only game should change their design.

That sounds like an online only title. I thought we were going to “change the design.”

That’s not “changing that” it’s keeping it online only.

I tried to pick the most obvious example of an online only title.

What’s the plan with a 100 player battle royal game?

Edit: the guy I replied to chose to quote someone saying a game is online only, and their suggestion was to change that.

And then ya’ll come in with replies about keeping it online only, and they have 55 upvotes as of this edit.

Why could you turn a battle royal game into a local only split screen game for 2-4 people?

Careful.

I’m glad we agree that anti-cheat is a security measure.

They tried to kill it? Really? Like, “we must stop this from going forward!” In that way? Why would anyone attempt to stop it?

I still think this is going to fail. But I’m not trying to stop it. I hope it succeeds.

I also find the debate bros involved to be annoying.

Is that why they left “from” out of the title?

Nope. All video games are bad, overpriced etc. same with movies as tv shows.

And we all have the right to the creative work of others. So pirate everything. That’ll fix it! /s

https://youtu.be/_yE-wA24xJ8

I think eventually things like this will push out consoles. And I think Sony and Microsoft are planning for it. Performance is flattening out across platforms and architectures. And architectures are all seemingly moving in the direction of ARM.