I don’t know German but I agree with the sentiment

Okay fair, sometimes I can lose patience when I feel like I am up against some kind of religious thinking. A lot of good points have been raised in this thread, and I believe in the strength of different ideas coming together to serve a common good, goal for people.

I don’t understand, can you give some examples?

Why should an owner share profits equally if they’re responsible for most of the startup push?

Great point, I’ll take that into consideration

I am sorry, but what does bought out mean? The person running it simply didn’t have to sell. If you’re saying “money was too tempting”, then isn’t that an inherent flaw in any Marxist Leninist theory in practice? So let’s say, the business wasn’t run by someone who cared enough about others and got greedy, so why not start one where you pick the right people? If you can’t do that, then why should any state ever cede over production to workers? How would we ensure greed doesn’t take over then?

I don’t know, it seems the whole argument seems to boil down to “there’s not enough time, money or skill”. I guess my question is why do ML theorists think workers can organize enough to run a state when they can’t organize enough to run a business?

People upvoting this have no idea, VCs aren’t the only way to fund a business

Idk, people are doing it already. Seems like this isn’t really a good reason.

You’re right it’s hard, that’s the same pressure as normal business creation. I mean, look at the fediverse. Making something like this didn’t happen overnight, and there’s a lot of talent and vision which made it happen.

I think to start, someone could build a profit-sharing version of TikTok, FB, Zoom, Amazon or Etsy etc.

This doesn’t make sense, there are people already doing this and making millions, at least.

Can you please cite some examples? What does that even mean?

These are great points, and looking at some of the other responses I get the sense that it’s a time and skills issue. So, what exactly do communists and socialists imagine will happen when “workers seize the means of production”?

I don’t want to discourage anyone from pursuing these ideas, I think at least in the U.S. it might be cool to have a consultancy or non-profit which helps connect such founders and provides them with education, training and startup resources.

Edit oh and some of the other points are that one wouldn’t get rich doing this. So what? I’ve already seen people look down on wealth accumulation, so I think it’s fair to say that the motives for someone who’d start such a business venture are different, which is valid and reasonable.

Secondly, I don’t think market forces will impact such businesses because if you’re creating communities around them, then people will choose what they know and trust.

Trying to infect you with toxoplasmosis, so adorable 🥰

How can this be fixed?

Ironically Republican presidents are the worst for the economy, https://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/2024/10/the-u-s-economy-performs-better-under-democratic-presidents

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I don’t find any issues on .world. Yeah some people say dumb stuff, but that’s just the world isn’t it? I am sure there are others who think the same of me. It’s whatever, some people getting mad at .world are just mad they’re not in an echo chamber.

But other people complaining about trolls are right, there’s just no place for that. Report, block and move on. It’s not your job to educate anyone.