my other account: https://hexbear.net/u/mathemachristian
My point was that there was much more good faith discussion from hexbear than from OP, I think the posts you copied here illustrate that nicely.
Also
Poor oppressed Putin!
shows how little you understand these arguments, the argument you post after that is meant to illustrate how Putin is an oppressor, not a oppressed or a speaker of the oppressed.
They’re detailed, they’re sourced and they give a coherent explanation. You can call them crock or whatever but it’s something you can actually argue against. None of this applies to the responses OP gave.
Also you’re really not understanding what is being said about the nazis in ukraine, namely that they are in power and control of the military. Which is an argument Im not gonna get into since I don’t know enough about it, but there is more to it than the "ukraine is imperfect because it has nazis and this is enough justification case closed. " argument you claim is being put forth.
“Ukraine isn’t a utopia, therefore it’s a dystopia”.
What?
More to the point, OPs replies were worse or non-existent. If you are going to bring up the ukraine war in a forum that is known to be on the other side of your argument you should have a better explanation than “Putin wants to revive the USSR” or at least something to back it up. Or at least engage the people trying to explain their viewpoints.
Except these replies are made to illustrate the viewpoints held by the commenters and not meant to be dunks. Rather obviously imo. Yet OP is claiming he only got called mean words and no one explained to them why they think what they think.
There absolutely were good faith explanations but OP didn’t engage with any of them in kind but chose to keep replying to the dunks instead.
More the fact that they got detailed replies but their best counter in that whole thread where the two replies where they quickly google some shit and paste the first results and provided no thoughts of their own.
again youre misrepresenting. you got several well articulated lengthy explanations and dismissed them or didn’t reply.
I was on lemm.ee when I got radicalized, all my life Ive been exposed to people claiming all sorts of things. I was a pro-NATO pro-Ukraine anti-ussr anti-china average reddit lib that they were able to convince otherwise.
We are not some anti-communist echochamber and being exposed to differning viewpoints radicalizes some of us
Here is a sample of the enriching experience they brought to the site: https://lemm.ee/post/41483398/14572285
and I’ll leave it to you to figure out why I’m not posting with my hexbear alt on lemmy.world
Im going to link your conversation here, where people were giving you detailed responses and you just kept shrugging them off so others can judge for themselves:
using the r slur or any variation thereof would already net you a ban so I doubt you were calling out someone elses use of it.
and i very much doubt the sincerity of your other characterizations, can you link the converations?
Omg you are the lib who thought Putin was a commie trying to revive the USSR!
but they are linking a lot of outside sources. That’s what I mean by “backing their claims up”, studies about covid, about the ukraine war, about Israel, it’s not just someone making a claim and then everyone is nodding along.
What I am saying is they were able to completely upend the way I see the world and you just can’t do that by claiming thengs and linking to some other claims you make.
Just revelling in the fact that the first thing you do after your ban is running to the most lib instance looking for reassurance that it’s the ebil tankies who are crazy
and how they kept being able to back it up?
You’re looking at the lemmygrad ban where they got banned for saying that the opinions about US politics held by a person whos country is being exploited by the US don’t matter.
Lol you got banned from hexbear and now are crying about it on lemmy.world?
Yeah they kept being able to back the most ridiculous claims and then suddenly I was like “oh no they were right all along” and got radicalized 🤷
looking at their history and the kind of shit they fund nowadays I wouldn’t rule it out.
In my case my hexbear account is an alt of my lemm.ee account