To be fair with the above, even considering that he’s being disingenuous*, his [AFAIK incorrect] claim is not “anime is child porn”, it’s “that anime instance has child porn”.

*note how he’s trying to transform “is this CSAM?” into a subjective matter. That’s rather close to the moving goalposts fallacy.

Even in this thread there’s discussion of a show that blatantly tittilates the audience with underage characters that would absolutely qualify as csam in any other community except in the anime community, for some reason.

Emphasis mine. If what you are saying is indeed correct (is it? dunno), this is a sign that the acronym “CSAM” was completely derailed.

Originally the expression “child sexual abuse material” was coined to avoid implications of consent brought by the word “pornography”, and it boils down to “evidence of child sexual abuse”. Consent and sexual abuse are legal notions that only apply to real people, not to fictional characters.

In the meantime, at worst the instance in question depicts images of clearly fictional characters in suggestive poses and/or clothing. It does not classify even as pornography, let alone sexual abuse. (Note that not even hentai depicting clearly adult characters is allowed in that instance.)

I don’t care about what the maintainers’ view of the matter is, I make (and sometimes delete) my comments based on my own view of it.

Given that this is a touchy subject, I think that this matter is better handled neither by the maintainers’ views nor by our own views, but by 1) legal definitions of governments that might be relevant in the matter, and 2) explicit moral premises.

Stating obvious shit like it was some hidden piece of wisdom? Inability to handle subtleties like “lying” vs. “saying an incorrect statement”? Voting system? People repeating the same shit over and over, without reading the others’ comments?

EDIT: I’m highlighting that this YT comment section shows a lot of things to hate in Reddit. In some aspects they’re behaving exactly like redditors; in some they’re actually doing it better, even if YT is a cesspool of idiocy.

Yeah, but the admins, as the thread has shown, are mainly reining in violations of sitewide policy. Instance rules are mainly the job of mods.

So the admins are reining in violations of lemmy.ml-wide policy… while lemmy.ml rules are mainly the job of the mods??? Congratulations, that’s the dumbest thing that I’ve read today.

Couple the above with the backpedalling (from “This is what mods are for.” to “Instance rules are mainly the job of mods.”; emphasis on “mainly”) - a sleight of hand, while lying that I was the one using a sleight of hand - and I’m led to the conclusion that you have nothing meaningful to add to this discussion, and can be safely ignored as dead weight and noise.

Unlike the above, does anyone here have any decent counter-argument against “migrating this comm to that other instance would be sensible”?

Want some cuteness overload? Even big felines love cardboard boxes!

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Not just the mods. Admins can (and should) also moderate content in their instances, specially when it comes to the global rules. And it’s clear that lemmy.ml admins want to do so, otherwise this thread wouldn’t exist on first place.

Sorry for the double reply. Here’s a practical idea: what if the mods of this comm contacted lemmy.ml’s admins? Ideally doing two things:

1. Clarifying that the instance in question does not have child sexual abuse material, and requesting users to be allowed to link it.
2. Expressing desire to migrate !anime@lemmy.ml to the instance in question, and highlighting that this is convenient for both sides of the matter.

Among the admins I think that Nutomic would be the best to contact, given the github thread.

You’re talking about your thread about Mahou Shoujo ni Akogarete, right? It’s still in the modlog for me, even in private mode. I don’t think that they removed the entry.

Lunix sucks so much that it got stuck into the version 2 for years.

No, but simply looking for something and then remembering that it doesn’t exist makes me feel stupid.

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In my opinion, the migration is sensible because:

1. You need to know a topic decently enough to be able to moderate a community about it. And yet it’s unreasonable to expect the admins of lemmy.ml - a community about free/open source and privacy - to know about anime.
2. There’s no inherent reason why this comm is the largest anime comm in Lemmy. It’s simply that this comm is three years old, from a time when “Lemmy” was mostly just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, there was no other place in Lemmy to discuss anime.
3. Lemmy as a whole benefits from redirecting traffic from larger instances to smaller ones. Specially instances unrelated to politics and tech. In fact, lemmy.ml’s admins asked users to use other instances not too long ago.

For me it says “admins”. I don’t know if it’s because I’m a mod of a few other lemmy.ml comms, or if it’s because of the different backend versions (SJW uses 0.18.5, lemmy.ml uses 0.19.1).

For context, I encourage people to check this discussion in the “join Lemmy” site github. Have in mind that both of the Lemmy developers in that discussion are also admins of the lemmy.ml instance, and they clearly disagree if the instance in question should be considered as “hosting CSAM” or not.

It’s the Sex update! They actually released it! The mad devs!

Dunno in Brazil as a whole but at least in my city, school uniforms are default. They’re simply taken for granted, not a “conservative vs. liberal” matter. Each school picks its own, but it usually boils down to a shirt, baggy pants, and a jacket (most schools cut you some slack on really cold days to swap it with a warmer one).

Glacial = anhydrous. People call it this way because pure acetic acid has a rather high freezing point (16°C), and it looks a lot like plain ice when frozen. (It still stinks vinegar once you open the bottle though.) But once you add even a bit of water, the freezing point drops considerably, so acetic acid solutions don’t show the same “ice”.

So in colder days, you need to rewarm it back into a liquid. Then people get really sloppy (I know it not just from that professor’s anecdote, but from watching it). They say “I’m just rewarming it, and it’s just acetic acid, what could go wrong?”. Well, it’s still a big flask of a corrosive, volatile, and flammable substance.

In the meantime, the same people doing dangerous reactions like nitration (it literally explodes if you let it get too hot - spreading nitric acid, sulphuric acid, and some carcinogenic solvent) “miraculously” pay full attention, obsessively taking care of the temperature of the ice bath.

Part of the advice that I mentioned in that comment chain is that - smaller dangers are still dangers, do not underestimate them.

I think that this community should migrate, but for a different reason: topic.

The topic of lemmy.ml is privacy and free-as-freedom software. Most other content here is off-topic, including anime. It was fine when it was just lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, as you’d have no other place to discuss anime in Lemmy, but now the situation is different.

And ideally, communities should be managed/moderated/administered by people who know well the topic of the community.

Long story short: someone else’s advice ITT reminded me a uni professor talking about a student hurting themself with glacial acetic acid. That reminded me how often I’m using alcohol vinegar for cleaning (alcohol vinegar is basically one part of glacial acetic acid for 24 parts of water), but I don’t see people doing it often - instead they often buy expensive cleaning agents that they use everywhere as “magical” solutions.