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Cake day: July 22nd, 2023

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  • That’s an interesting perspective actually

    Maybe it’s because of who’s giving them? If my little cousin gave me an AI Christmas card, I’d be happier than if a stranger gave me one on the street. (Though I’d feel bummed if they didn’t even marker in a single custom sentence)

    i.e. higher standards of creativity/effort from a stranger than from a family member.

    Also the stranger isn’t stuffing a tenner in the card lmao




  • Ty for feedback :>

    Your paragraph read well. I definitely agree – grammar with risks, outside of hyper-formal sitches, is just stylized diction. ChatGPT could scarcely come up with an e.e. cummings poem (just tested now, it never gets the style about right), nor dare to abuse parentheses, nor remove cruft for conciseness (e.g. to start a sentence with “Kind of changed” instead of “This kind of changes” for compression (woot)). It’s a “wrong” but not quite “wrong”, and I’m glad that “riskless” manages to carry that feeling

    And I edit a lot too :) it’s the “post-email-send clarity” effect


  • edit: updated accordingly for clarity

    Ah, I mean proper grammar as in formal, largely riskless grammar. For example, AI wouldn’t connect

    monolingual + educated + have access to technology

    with pluses, like a human would.

    Not sure how I’d phrase that though. Maybe “perfect, risklessly formal grammar” as I just tried to call it? (i.e. if AI trainers consider using +‘es a “risk”, as opposed to staying formal and spick n’ span clean).

    Perfect grammar is humanly possible but there is some scrutiny that can be applied to GPT-style grammar, especially in the context of the casually-toned web (where 100%ed grammar isn’t strictly necessary!). Just… defining this state well is tough to me. :|





  • I’m not sure I agree but I’m happy to discuss! :)

    Why are you calling my statement “selective memory” (am I intentionally excluding something?), and what do you mean by “way worse”? Do you consider unskilled art as not art at all (i.e. “so-called”)?

    What I was trying to say, is that on social media, skilled artists formerly dominated attention (likes, upvotes) because viewers wanted well-constructed, pleasing-to-the-eye artwork. I wasn’t trying to say that they were the only art posters (sorry for my wording!). Continuing, now that AI is in the arena, “technically-decent” art is no longer the lower bound for pleasurable-to-see – now, viewers are more partial to knowing that a human was vulnerable when they expressed themselves with art.

    It’s an intensification of internet-ugly aesthetic, which Douglas (2014) called "an imposition of messy humanity upon an online world of smooth gradients, blemish correcting Photoshop, and AutoCorrect” (p. 314). Now, online, handmaking art at all is a declaration of humanity, because you could corporately fake something full-colored and intricate, but arguably soulless, with lower effort.

    Of course, I’ll try to take it from your perspective. I’ve seen really bad human art (I like art!), and I’ve seen less-artifacted AI art (have you ever seen Even_Adder’s generations on lemmy.dbzer0? they don’t have the overshading issue at all). Of course, some may disagree that the latter is art (is art only human expression?), but supposing I do consider the latter art, my point still stands – viewers are more on the lookout for genuineness now.

    Happy to see what you think!

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  • Disclosure: I’ve done very little UI/UX.

    Google’s Material Design (wikipedia) is much more widely-adopted across OSes/Flutter/the web (see how many websites have that dropshadow topbar and ≡?); Microsoft’s Fluent (wikipedia) is Windows-first, but is usable anywhere.

    Both are based on responding to user actions. Fluent uses lightup acrylic (translucent) canvases (e.g. hover? border glowy.)

    while Google’s Material uses paper-esque whitespace, navbars, dropshadows, and round corners. (e.g. scrolling? dropshadow appears on nav)

    Think Microsoft Teams vs. Google Drive.

    They’re both full-fledged but Material You is way more common judging by places such as the F-Droid ecosystem on Android. As for which is “better”, Material You supposedly has better colorscheme flexibility since it ‘wants’ to adapt to e.g. user wallpapers. But other than that it’s really just preference (or whether relevant tooling exists :P). I know some devs use Material You for a predictable, unified look across Android apps, while others bend them to their will to reduce animations or whatnot.

    If you’re designing something, make sure you keep your own self in the mix too. Breezy Weather uses Material Design, but it’s more customized to have a unique feel than, say, TrackerControl (which also uses Material).


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    edit: Please be nice to each other! :(

    Lots of downvotes in this reply chain. Not to be a “I don’t wanna be either side” kinda guy but AI isn’t all bad and isn’t all good either. (Greys!)

    Merry Christmasing should be a genuine hug. Even if this was made by a homegrown open-weight open-dataset inference model, it’s nearly 100% low-effort generated – holidays need the human aspect, no? Covering yourself up too much in AI takes away from the humanness with corporate diction, and people need evidence of risktaking genuineness nowadays.

    On the other hand, AI is definitely useful… but elsewhere. It’s not strictly anti-human even if conglomerates are using it that way, which I think you agree on. Wading through HOA using local NLP setups is human. Looking through a Mandarin thread when typical translation sucks, is human.

    But there are domains for its use and there is ethical stuff to work on. This post just doesn’t fit the domain too well, as others agree…





  • I love all the pleasantly deep answers in this thread.

    For my input: I’m everything I ever was, all at once.

    You know how lenses refract over each other at the optometrist? Or how colors combine when you stack transparent cups in the washer? That’s me. I have parts from everyone I ever met, and parts from everyone I ever was. There’s no mask, even if I focus on one part of the mosaic in a meeting vs. another when I nerd out w/ a buddy – it’s all equally me.

    I’m not Shrek though. Onions have layers, but I’m prismatic glass, chips and dips and all.


  • I disagree with this sentiment; I’m inclined to believe that AI has actually lowered the bar for meaning.

    Before AI, typically only skilled artists drew pictures for the web. But now that AI is making art that’s less meaningful than crayon pictures, there’s the growing sentiment of

    I’d rather see a crayon picture than AI slop.

    which could actually mean more people have the ability to go on and artify.

    Of course this is anecdotal; it’s the reason I started drawing again :)



  • Sorry for the wall of text again c:

    (CLICK HERE FOR BIG WALL)

    AI text as a whole is usually structured, neutral-positive to positive shallowness. It’s called slop because it’s easy to make a lot of substanceless, nutrientless goo. One common structure is

    Introduction

    Since the dawn of time, ethics has been important.

    AI Structure: Hidden Secrets Revealed

    1. Being considerate: Being considerate can help relationships.
    2. This structure: is untrustworthy. Be suspicious when you see it.
    3. Lots of broad statements: that don’t say anything—often with em-dashes.

    Conclusion

    In conclusion, while ethics can be hard, it is important to follow your organizations guidelines. Remember, ethics isn’t just about safety, but about the human spirit.

    What do we spot? Sets of three, largely perfect/riskless formal grammar (grammar perfection is not inhuman – but a human might, say, take the informal risk of using lotsa parentheses (me…)), uncreative colon titles, SEO-style intros and conclusions, an odd corporate-style ethics hangup, em-dashes (the long —), and some of the stuff in that reddit link I mentioned are often giveaways.

    Here’s some examples in the wild:

    • Playing Dumb: How Arthur Schopenhauer Explains the Benefits of Feigned Ignorance. PeopleAndMedia. has useless headings and the colon structure I mentioned. There’s also phrases like “Let’s delve” and “unexpected advantage” – ChatGPT likes pretending to be unconventional and has specific diction tics like “Here’s to a bright future!” One interesting thing is that the article uses some block quotes and links – this is rare for AI.

    • Why is PHP Used. robots.net. This is from a “slop site”, one that is being overrun by AI articles. Don’t read the whole thing, it’s too long. Skim first. See how many paragraphs start with words like “additionally”, “moreover”, “furthermore”, like a grade school English lit student? Furthermore (lol), look at the reasonings used:

      The size of the PHP developer community is a testament to the language’s popularity and longevity.

      PHP boasts a large and vibrant developer community that plays a pivotal role in its continued success and widespread adoption.

      ChatGPT-esque vocabulary is used (this is something you unfortunately get a feel for), and the reasoning isn’t very committal. Instead of evaluating some specific event deeper, the article just lists technologies and says stuff like “PHP has comprehensive and well-maintained documentation, providing in-depth explanations, examples, and guides.” So what if there’s docs? Everyone has documentation. Name something PHP docs do better or worse. Look at this paragraph (SKIM IT, don’t read deeply):

      CodeIgniter is known for its simplicity and speed. It is a lightweight framework that prioritizes performance and efficiency. CodeIgniter’s small footprint makes it suitable for small to medium-sized projects where speed is crucial. It provides essential features and a straightforward structure that allows developers to build applications quickly and efficiently.

      It doesn’t actually SAY ANYTHING despite its length. The paragraph can be compressed to: “CodeIgniter has a light footprint”. It doesn’t even say whether we’re talking about comparative speed, memory usage, or startup time. It’s like they paid someone (openAI) to pad word count on the ensmallening I mentioned.

    Before reading something, check the date. If it’s after 2020, skims to be too long and not very deep, and has too many GPT tics (tricolons, vocab like “tapestry/delve”, the SEO shit structure), then it’s AI slop. Some readers actively avoid post-2020 articles but I can’t relate.

    edit: clarified that perfect grammar is humanly doable, but GPT-style riskless formal grammar is still distinct from grammatical human text




  • AI structure can be pretty obvious if you know which English weapons it loves to spam. Let’s walk it through (sorry for the wall of text lmfao):

    I skip the image because the chimney mistake and overdone shading is obvious

    1. Corporate style.
      • “In these unpredictable and often challenging times” – This is very corporate. How many messages have you seen like this during the pandemic? Buuut just because it’s soulless doesn’t mean it’s AI, but I wouldn’t expect it from a community of this archetype. (ai suspicion +1)
    2. Tricolons, especially ascending. (source)
      • This is something ChatGPT loves. Essentially, there are three “things” in a sentence, sometimes clauses. Sometimes each one is larger than the last (ascending), e.g. “I honed my skills in research, collaboration, and problem-solving.” And it appears a lot even in this short snippet
      • “…you can step back, breathe, and find some calm amidst the chaos”. The third element is longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
      • “May your days be filled with joy, your systems stay secure, and your kernels remain stable.” Elements are successively syllabically longer. Ascension spotted. (ai suspicion +2)
      • “Take the opportunity to reconnect, reflect, and perhaps even find inspiration for the year ahead.” Third element is longer. Ascension spotted. How funny – three tricolons! Three three three three (ai suspicion +2)
    3. Obsession with superficial positivity.
      • ChatGPT, even when making stories about evil, is very partial to love, friendship, joy, making up, peace, tranquility, (pseudo) “unconventional” friendship. Excessive meaningless positivity is an archetype too, though ChatGPT’s factgivings are usually neutral-positive.
      • “more important than ever to pause and share heartfelt wishes” Share wishes. Would a human on c/linux say something like that without elaborating further about wishing for something, perhaps death to Windows users? (ai suspicion +1)
      • “moment of peace” “find some calm” “positivity” “open-source spirit” but they never talk deeper, again. (ai suspicion +1)

    So yeah this is at least 90% OpenAI. Too fuckin’ bad.