Yes, it calls that its “quick terminal” feature

Das ist absolut nicht vergleichbar mit der Steuerhinterziehung durch Reiche, WTF.

It doesn’t. read the first words behind the link you posted:

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Here is the actual one: https://packaging.python.org/en/latest/tutorials/packaging-projects/

Uv and pip do the same thing, uv is just faster.

Hatch has the same role as Poetry or tox: managing environments for you.

Applications should be packaged properly, in a self contained installer for exactly this demographic. It’s not Python’s fault that this isn’t common practice.

Sure, there was some hyperbole. Some people need some specific setuptools plugin or something. Almost nobody.

It’s not a standard, it’s built on standards.

You can also use Poetry (which recently grew standard metadata support) or plain uv venv if you want to do things manually but fast.

Oh no

It’s fixed, and the python version had nothing to do with it. Just use hatch

No it’s not. E.g. nobody who starts a new project uses setup.py anymore

Ooo damn that sounds exactly what I’d like to try.

On the other hand I feel like I’m too old for this shit. My system works fine, I understand everything, and things rarely break and never in an unrecoverable way.

It’s been great almost since I started using it.

I started using it exactly when 4.0 came out, because that’s when I started using Linux and I thought learning 3 didn’t make sense. But 4 only got stable around 4.4 I think. The problem was that 4.0 wasn’t intended to be for end users yet, but distributions didn’t realize that and packaged it right away.

KDE didn’t repeat that mistake. 5.0 was almost completely smooth sailing (some applications took a long time to port and looked ugly, that’s it), and 6.0 was completely seamless.

If I had to guess, probably variable refresh rate

Relevant, maintained? Zero.

Huh, I found it to be so much easier to set up than nginx that I wrote the devs a little thank you message

That’s just completely wrong. Just try e.g. replacing the journald backend with the old text based syslog, and not only will you discover that is possible (which directly contradicts what you just said), it’s also easy!

The only thing I liked was arch’s pretty boot sequence … which I stared at for a while because SysV init was so slow.

systemd, not SystemD, or system d.

But yeah, wonderful talk!

Whoever dies first loses.

Wow you’re insane. “I know, I’ll discredit the woman who just pointed out that it’s hard to get credit in her field as a woman ”

Python is just glorified shell scripting

Absolutely not, python is an actual programming language with sane error handling and arbitrarily nestable data structures.

I don’t like the indentation crap

Don’t be so superficial. When learning something, go with the flow and try to work with the design choices, not against them.

Python simply writes a bit differently: you do e.g. more function definitions and list comprehensions.