That’s not what I said, and you know it. You’re definitely reinforcing my impression of you as a strawmanner.

I don’t believe you. I’m a regular on hexbear, and not once ever have I seen someone make that claim. Seems like you’re just strawmanning.

there is very little room to doubt that he didn’t make it

That’s some… Incredibly motivated reasoning.

Have you ever actually talked to a tankie about it? If you had, you’d know that none of them say it never happened.

He’s trying for some more.

If you think liberalism is the left most position on the scale, then you’re exactly what I’m talking about

Yes, Marx definitely wrote a lot about “western chauvinism.” Perhaps you mean “social chauvinism?”

"MLs cannot imagine political theory after 1924! But also, unless Karl Marx himself explicitly said it, it isn’t real!’

Because it’s definitely very confusing language for the under studied. Perhaps you should pick up some German language.

Lol, perfect. I can tell you watch Oppenheimer recently…

Again, I just can’t help but be struck by the stark chasm between this liturgical internet “leftism,” which seems confused between the principals of pragmatic worker liberation, versus the fantasy that Lenin’s autocracy ever achieved anything noteworthy.

You think the USSR wasn’t a noteworthy improvement on imperial Russia? And your calling other people ‘under-studied’? Good lord, liberals really are proudly ignorant.

so who cares about results, right?

MLs. MLs are the ones who care about results and ‘practical workers liberation’, rather than liberals, who simply demand instant utopia while defending capitalism.

Non violently, through electoral reform preferably.

Lol. How are you going to do that? Vote for it?

Lol, as if America and Israel were ok before Netanyahu and Biden

I don’t see it as left punching as much as calling out campists and .ml mods.

I don’t think anyone really cares how you see it: its all just you railing at anyone to the left of Elizabeth Warren.

I see it as holding up actual leftist values

Leftist values like western chauvinism, anti-communism, pro-capitalism, and Zionism.

I have never defended Israel

Lol, sure thing.

The rule against mild criticism of the admins?

Lol.

It can’t be censorship if there are rules, right?

If you want a site with no rules, maybe you should go to 4chan instead of Lemmy.

“I made a post that broke the rules, and it got removed! Censorship!”

Your post history is 85% left punching, 10% defending Israel, and 5% advocating for new deal style capitalism.

Like I said: liberals literally cannot imagine people existing to the left of them.

Liberals have invented their own version of the Judeo-Bolshivick conspiracy theory to blame literally all their problems on.

Liberals literally cannot imagine people existing to the left of them.

What I loved about Reddit was that on any given story you saw a number of well informed opinions debating the nuances of those opinions. You’d learn so much more by engaging with the comments than just reading the article itself.

Is there some other Reddit that I don’t know about? Because the Reddit I know is about as far from this as it’s possible to be.

Again, what does any of that have to with the admins of lemmy.ml being more tolerant of liberalism than the admins of lemmy.world are of leftism?

Someone should tell Hong Kong. I’m sure that will make them feel much better. Considering everything that’s been happening to them lately.

Pardon me? What the fuck does this have to do with .ml admins being more tolerant of liberalism than .world are of leftism?

I’m just going to go outside enjoy the freedom and prosperity that my evil liberal society has provided me.

Like I said, you don’t actually believe in any of the value or ideals you claim; you’re the beneficiary of a liberal order built on imperialism, exploitation, and genocide, and you hate anyone who threatens to take that from you. Ten million Palestinians, Ethiopians, Indians, Yemeni, and whoever else needs to can die horribly, but so long as you have your Costco, you’re happy.

Considerably less of them than under capitalism.