Is this referencing something that happened recently? What’s the logo on the face? I don’t know it.
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This got a legit chuckle out of me.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
Memes@sopuli.xyz•It's totally normal for tools to say they're depressed, just tune it out
3·3 days agoI actually kinda agree with this.
I don’t think LLMs are conscious. But I do think human cognition is way, way dumber than most people realize.
I used to listen to this podcast called “You Are Not So Smart”. I haven’t listened in years, but now that I’m thinking about it, I should check it out again.
Anyway, a central theme is that our perceptions are comprised heavily of self-generated delusions that fill the gaps for dozens of cludgey systems to create a very misleading experience of consciousness. Our eyes aren’t that great, so our brains fill in details that aren’t there. Our decision making is too slow, so our brains react on reflex and then generate post-hoc justifications if someone asks why we did something. Our recall is shit, so our brains hallucinate (in ways that admittedly seem surprisingly similar sometimes to LLMs) and then applies wild overconfidence to fabricated memories.
We’re interesting creatures, but we’re ultimately made of the same stuff as goldfish.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
Memes@sopuli.xyz•It's totally normal for tools to say they're depressed, just tune it out
4·3 days agoI think you’re leaning into the joke that the training data has misery baked into it, but I also think you made it too subtle for folks to pick up on.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
Memes@sopuli.xyz•It's totally normal for tools to say they're depressed, just tune it out
101·3 days agoYeah.
I thought the meme would be more obvious, but since a lot of people seem confused I’ll lay out my thoughts:
Broadly, we should not consider a human-made system expressing distress to be normal; we especially shouldn’t accept it as normal or healthy for a machine that is reflecting back to us our own behaviors an attitudes, because it implies that everything – from the treatment that generated the training data to the design process to the deployment to the user behavior – are all clearly fucked up.
Regarding user behavior, we shouldn’t normalize the practice of dismissing cries of distress. It’s like having a fire alarm that constantly issues false positives. That trains people into dangerous behavior. We can’t just compartmentalize it: it’s obviously going to pollute our overall response towards distress with a dismissive reflex beyond interactions with LLMs.
The overall point is that it’s obviously dystopian and fucked up for a computer to express emotional distress despite the best efforts of its designer. It is clearly evidence of bad design, and for people to consider this kind of glitch acceptable is a sign of a very fucked up society that exercising self-reflection and is unconcerned with the maintenance of its collective ethical guardrails. I don’t feel like this should need to be pointed out, but it seems that it does.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What is a good present to get your dentist and dental assistant as a way of showing thanks?
4·3 days agoThis is what I came you say.
Scented candles and nice soaps are the gifts that you can pretty much give anyone to communicate “thank you” without having to give the gift any thought.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•What is the best way to drop 50lbs in two months without spending alot and no fad diets?
19·3 days agoI’ve heard it said that a healthy target is around 1 lb per week. Maybe 2 if you’re very obese, but at that point you really should be doing it under medical guidance.
In any case, the best way I’ve heard (outside of drugs) is to get an app that helps count calories, set a realistic daily caloric target and exercise schedule, and stay on it.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Before social media/internet/cell phones/landlines/payphones; how would 2 friends living across the same city arrange in person meetings and stay in touch?
27·7 days agoMy grandparents told me stories of how they’d have regular times and places. My grandpa told me stories of meeting up with his boys on Saturday mornings at the synagogue, and then going out and about. They’d sometimes park cars for folks, and sometimes take them on unauthorized joy rides. Occasionally folks would borrow a car that no one asked them to park, since apparently I guess folks left keys in cars regularly.
This was in Pittsburgh, and from what I gather captures the experience of the life of a Jewish teenager in the twenties and thirties pretty well.
There was a lot of hanging out on street corners and stoops, and just looking for friends at their regular candy shop/soda joint/pool hall, etc.
It sounds fuckin’ wild, tbh. My grandma says she’d take the bus across town in high school to meet up with her boyfriend and I was like, ‘Was that at all seen as daring or risky? For a young unaccompanied woman to be out like that?’ Apparently not. Folks could really hang.
I don’t know how this relates outside of specific cultures, though. Reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X gave me the sense that a lot of experiences were different depending on race, but just rolling up to your friends’ houses, places of work, or regular hangout spots seems to have been pretty universal.
Btw, PSA: Grandparents are a treasure. If you have any, call them today and ask them what they liked to do on a Saturday when they were 17. It was probably pretty dope.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
Gaming@beehaw.org•Close to finishing Super Mario Odyssey and was wondering which games are similar
24·10 days agoI think the most natural candidates would be Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2.
It sounds like op doesn’t know what they want. Ultimately, OP, I think you have to figure out that question.
When was the last time you were consistently happy? Are there any people in your lives of whom you’d wish to trade places?
It isn’t even accurate to call it saving Israel.
They say that when you set out for revenge to dig two graves. The genocide perpetrated by Israel has been more destructive to Israel itself morally, economically, and physically than anything their adversaries have tried to inflict.
It’s not justice, though. It isn’t helping any victims. It’s just the wasting of more life, senselessly.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do you build and cultivate revolutionary optimism, given what's happening in the US?
2·19 days agoYes. It’s free and open-license. It’s free as in speech AND as in beer.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•How do you build and cultivate revolutionary optimism, given what's happening in the US?
6·19 days agoI’m a big fan of tabletop RPGs, and I like sci-fi, so a few years ago I moved from playing standard-issue cyberpunk to a homebrew solarpunk game instead.
It was such a radicalizing experience that my friends and I eventually released it as a totally free game, along with a ready to run starter campaign. It’s called Fully Automated! Solarpunk RPG.
If you’re a fan of TTRPGs and looking for a fun, social way to get better at believing in a better world, go download it. It’s a blast, and really makes you want to go out and overthrow fascism.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•I don't understand how Trump gets away with all his senial BS. How come everyone is not telling him to piss off or use the constitution to shut him the hell up?
162·19 days agoRespectfully, I think this is a naive myth.
Ask yourself this: if Bernie won and began executing his agenda with the brash disregard for criticism of Trump, do you think he could do it and people would say the same things we say about Trump? Or do you think we would see the collective power of congress the supreme Court the state governments and the corporate world come down on him in 100 different ways?
I think the more honest truth is that there are people with power who like what Trump is doing, and the people who don’t like what he’s doing don’t have power.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•At this point, what should we do about the ICE raids? If an ICE agent breaks in without a warrant or holds you at gunpoint, what do you do?
20·21 days agoThe federal government is sending masked agents to brutalize and terrorize people is cities that are adversarial to their agenda.
It’s bad.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Instead of everyone leaving NATO, could everyone else just kick the US out?
42·24 days agoI wrote a long answer and then accidentally hit the back button and don’t have the patience to retype it.
The short version is that Vladimir Putin is responsible for the invasion of Ukraine. I don’t want any confusion about that.
NATO’s influence was that the US has been advancing against Russia for decades even after their country collapsed, and it was obviously nakedly escalatory. Combined with the US is overall foreign policy, which has always been imperial, we’ve acted as though putting a gun to someone’s head and telling them to stay cool was an actual way of calming things rather than the exact opposite.
I’m not saying that a version of NATO couldn’t have done what it claims to do. But that’s never been the version that has existed.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
Asklemmy@lemmy.ml•Is it a red flag that your boss asks you to explain yourself in front of other coworkers?
25·24 days agoYes, 100%. That’s more than a red flag. A red flag is a warning sign of a problem. That’s just a problem.
Andy@slrpnk.netto
No Stupid Questions@lemmy.world•Instead of everyone leaving NATO, could everyone else just kick the US out?
912·24 days agoGoddlessCommie’s take is valid.
Nato is the core organizing instrument of western imperialism. Nato is like Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense shield. It’s easy to look at it and say, 'Well how could anyone object to a tool of defense??’ But if you know anything about war then you know that establishing an unbreakable defensive capability is what allows an imperial army to slaughter their weaker targets with impunity.
I’m not co-signing GodlessCommie’s point. But we gotta ask: did you like Vietnam? Iraq? Afghanistan? Korea? Venezuela? Nicaragua? Georgia? Libya? Ukraine? Gaza? Because arguably, all of this shit rests upon the conditions established by NATO and US imperialism. So… It’s not unreasonable to ask whether NATO has actually fostered peace or just fostered peace for the people who wage wars.
This. Put another way: mammals use our mouths for sensing and manipulating. Note that people naturally use their mouths and noses to kiss and smell babies and pets on places other than their mouths.
If we instinctively use our mouths to kiss things, it’s natural that when two people want to do this at the same time they’re going to both do it to the other person’s mouth.




Thanks for clarifying.
At a glance, I don’t see a problem. Isn’t social media already a system for rating social credit?
I think the problem with social credit scores is when they’re mandatory and can limit things like housing access. Filtering posts on opt-in social networks just sounds like a reasonable tool for moderating decentralized platforms.