Correct, as I said elsewhere they got the distribution wrong because they are working off memory, but it’s not difficult to link the numbers - they mistook the police and army as having the same number of deaths as civilian protestors rather than student protestors, but the total roughly matches and there’s only one source that makes that specific distinction between groups rather than a general guess at a total. I don’t understand why you’re so upset about being told the source after asking for the source.

Well if you’re already reading a wiki article I’m not sure how you’d have trouble matching the source. As I said elsewhere they got the distribution wrong, but you’re making it sound like you’re just here to JAQ off.

You thought wrong. So back to the question, what cause would he become a martyr for, that the other dead couldn’t be martyrs for?

Probably the official CPC figure of 241 killed in total. Most of the serious estimates broadly agree - NSA said 180-500, and the Tiananmen Mothers organisation have identified 198 of the dead.

I think the numbers are a bit off - official Chinese figures were ~20 student protestors, ~20 police and army, and about 200 other protestors were killed.

A martyr for what? There were already plenty of dead to martyr, what difference would he make?

If you talk about Philip the Greek in the UK on the other hand, it absolutely does not refer to Alexander the Great.

The problem with pissing all over Thatcher’s grave is that you eventually run out of piss.