Gotcha… I think I understand your point. Yet, the lack of enforcement for this law for the small guy, and the dozens of cases of the big guy using this to screw the small guy proves somewhat contrary on it… But I think that we disagree on the philosophical implication on the topic, not on the topic itself.
And before I forget, thanks a lot for clarifying the your point of view, even that we don’t fully agree in totality on the topic, I appreciate your effort and reasoning with me.
I don’t get it them, I’ve strictly said in my blogs, and pages: “do not scrape”, I’ve robots.txt also explicating stating: “do not enter bot”, And yet they scrape my data. Even when it’s clear that this isn’t welcome, so my copyright is already violated, I can get parts of my test from the Gemini and OpenAI, so it’s already in their system.
The copyright is already broken, You are suggesting that I should try to sue them? I don’t follow man… really sorry.
That I’ve logs that prove that some companies are scraping my posts and code when they should not.
Th logs on my blog say otherwise
The logs on my git repository says otherwise too
Since it’s a company, it should not use our data, right? right? It’s my data, it can’t use my post for training, right? It’s not fair use… right?
I’ve the impression that copyright isn’t for the “small guy”, but for the “big tech”
That’s the point, my focus is on the “Europe” as a general place, since they need to sync the “law” to some degree, there is different levels, but the base line are the same.
Most public data, like all the music in Spotify don’t require a cookie. So I could in theory scrape all the Spotify music to “listem later”. This wouldn’t be “illigal”, but if that’s the case Annas Archive should be “fine”… (I know that they are distributing, and this is the fight)
But, if they scrapped the music, and I scrape we would have the same “dataset”, so if I download the Annas “dataset”, would it be different from mine? So if I prefer to download the Anna’s dataset instead of scrape myself, would this be illigal? They aren’t selling (on the contrary of Google).
There is way to many questions in my head :(
With the slow-death of copyright, what else is left? And if not dead, how can we reclaim it? I’ve so many questions, and I can’t focus on a single thing :(
Most of the current AI models can already search and find bugs, this mythos is pretty much a PR stunt.
Should “we” care?
And if so, what we can do about it?
I’ve the impression that it’s moving the problem to another vendor instead of solving it. Not exactly sure how to feel on this topic.
Stupid, even naive question. What about AGPL code used in this training?
Would that means that the output is also AGPL?
Yeah… maybe the revision shouldn’t be on the law itself, but on the fact that the economic power can easily translate into law/gov power and this could be a major issue… But this is a total side-step on the topic… And another thing to my already dizzy mind to think about it :D