You’re very kind to offer at least. I only use Steam. I bought it way back before I really understood that they require you to use their stupid third party brick. The sales got me, I will admit. $20 for three great games sounded so good. :/
I tried that too, as I did have the GE option under compatibility when trying different versions. It just won’t install EA’s shitty app. I feel like on one of the Proton versions, it did “install” and booted up, but then just showed a black screen with nothing afterwards. I shut it down to try again because I know how finicky these things can be, and then the EA app was saying t wasn’t installed. I gave up after about an hour and went back to Windows. I work way too much to be able to sit there and tinker with this crap when I get off from a 10 hour shift…
openSUSE, Mass Effect Legendary Edition does not boot on my setup, but on ProtonDB, it says gold. Just using Proton did not work for me, so I don’t know what extra BS people did to get it running, but yeah. That’s a recent one I’ve run into.
Just my opinions as I am still a Linux noob (been using it on and off for the last 15 years, but only on old hardware, and I made A LOT of mistakes):
Handheld? --> Bazzite
Desktop? --> openSUSE Tumbleweed
Do we really need to fund more plastic crap?
I feel this way every time something is made like this. Like, you’re not reinventing the wheel in any meaningful way. Is it cool? Of course! Is is something that makes the task easier and/or better? No, not really.
Hello! I’ve been using openSUSE Tumbleweed as my daily (as much as I can anyway, some things still only truly work best under Windows unfortunately) but here are some things I did to get openSUSE ready for gaming:
Hopefully that helps out some. Generally when I run into a problem, I’ll search like so:
how to get xxxx running on openSUSE Tumbleweed?
openSUSE Tumbleweed xxxx issue
and so on and so on.
Good luck on your journey!
P.S. Steam can be kinda wonky on Wayland, which I forgot to mention in the steps, but to fix the flickering issue with my setup, I went into Steam’s settings > Interface and turned off “enable GPU accelerated rendering in web views” and the flickering stopped.
*Also, I think Wayland works better for playing newer games. I just know that on my own setup, xorg runs like garbage even on the desktop, while in Wayland, it is as buttery smooth as it can be, even better than Windows! So, look up how to change into that mode. You can log out and do it right from the login screen!
I’ve got my main OS that loads after boot as openSUSE, but there are still plenty of reasons I need my Windows SSD.
I LOVE modding my games (if they allow me, the cowards) so that is really the biggest drawback for someone like me on Linux. Skyrim/Oblivion/Fallout 3/New Vegas/Fallout 4 are practically a no go on Linux (besides dragging and dropping the hundreds of mods that make Skyrim actually as stable as it should be… Bethesda…). I do want to help out NexusMods with their Nexus app that supports Linux, but they only support Cyberpunk 2077 and Stardew Valley right now (last I checked anyway) but those older Bethesda games are the reason I fell in love with computers in the first place, and it was because of modding.
On Windows, I can open up Vortex, find a Collection, click install, and go play another game while hundreds of mods are downloaded and installed in the background. On openSUSE, I can’t do that (yet). Which is fine for most people, but I like to bring attention to those of us who delve a little deeper than “Click play button and play”.
Other than Bethesda games, I’m playing through Metaphor: ReFantazio right now on Windows. Why? Because again, there is a Windows only mod manger called Reloaded-II that is needed for modding that game. With Bethesda games, at least I can go the slow and arduous path of one by one modding. Not on here. If I wanted to mod Metaphor on Linux, I would need to extract alllll of the game files, find the files that my mod is going to replace, replace them with the mod, and then compile the game back to how it was. Yeah, honestly, I just want to play the damn game as time is limited due to work, so that isn’t really the best option. Cool for those that want to do it that way though!
Now, the biggest crux I had before these modding issues was WeMod. WeMod has saved me so much damn time and effort on games that expect you to be a person with a lot of free time. I did find a guide on ow to get WeMod working at least, so I do plan on playing MOST games through openSUSE now that I’ve got that working! So, I am really excited for that at least, as games generally in my experience, do play better under Linux!
Now, “ONLY modding?” you might say. “Why not just play the game how the developers want you to?” Well, really, because I just grew up doing this kind of stuff and always like seeing what you can bring into an old game to freshen it up. New armors, new weapons, new quests, in the case of Metaphor, allowing me to use my 21:9 ultrawide I bought back in 2018 because I bought one like a fucking fool who thought most games would support it in the future. Yeah, some do, but I will not get another 21:9 display for gaming ever again. :P
I just thought I’d bring these up in here for some reason because I see plenty of people talking highly of Linux gaming, and while it is VERY good, there are still a few things that are absent that PC gamers would find essential, such as mods or even Cheat Engine/WeMod. These are things I wish more people would talk about so that expectations are set appropriately. For example, I had a friend install Linux Mint, even after I told him to go in it with the expectation that all the things he normally does on Windows will not work the same way if at all. He still went through with it, and within a week, he wanted me to put Windows back on it because he likes to mod GTA5 and other things like CloneHero.
Sorry for the rant, but I always see these types of comments about Linux gaming, but never the about the stuff that I really enjoy about being a PC gamer.
Thank you for reading if you did, and I hope I made sense!
Play demanding games on desktop, and easy to pick up and put down games on the Deck.
Personally, I use mine just like that, except the Deck is mainly an emulation portable since I have the desktop for the more beefy games I play.
Don’t knock it 'til you try it as they say!
I wish people would just laugh at them, and tell them how fucking ridiculous they look and then promptly leave their asses behind and move on. Instead, we get news articles about a minority of people who have shit opinions about things they have no understanding of.
Atticus, I highly recommend getting the PC port of this game. Choose the Render96 option, and relive what the game probably looked like to all those kids back in the day. It also has some extra neat things like bringing in some of the move set of Odyssey, a mode that allows you to collect all the stars in the level in one go, and much much more. :)
Just observing the major differences in attitude here. I’m agreeing with you, and wondering why the vitriol all being placed on Harris and her campaign, instead of on the voters who actively wanted and then voted for a felon.
Everyone who voted for a genocider and lost should really shut the fuck up lmao
Eagerly awaiting your response when Trump amps it to 11, and your argument goes invalid because he “finished the job”.
What will you say then, I wonder?
I swear after this election, people have become so… senseless on here. Wildly different just a few weeks ago when we were sticking up and actively promoting Harris and her policies.
I hope that my previous comment did not come of any way negative! I’d say that I’m rather bad about getting my thoughts across the web, unfortunately. I took no offense to your comment at all, and I apologize if I did come of that way.
See, I’m not even really into it for the story either! I know there is one, and I do digest the hints they’ve given along the way, interact with every character until they start repeating the same lines, and I always try to make sure to check every nook and cranny I can to not miss anything. I’ve just gotten past the Forest Golem, and all I know now is that the Wand is in the King’s Tomb, and that’s what I need to find next. I’m actually about to boot it up right after this comment!
Your opinion on beating it legitimately isn’t wrong, by any means, I think you’re right. The reason I included the controls snippet is to mention there is still a way to play for the people like me, or to someone with less patience for such a game. I did mention it wasn’t the correct way to play, and would put the enemies at a disadvantage. My main goal was to provide a means of entry for those that hear it’s so sluggish and has horrible camera controls (for someone in 2024, anyway).
I’m sorry to hear about you and Kira. I have never interacted with a game developer before, so I can’t really comment on that too much, unfortunately.
I think they can provide limitations while still making it accessible enough for someone who has never played a King’s Field game before, or even someone who can’t move their hands/fingers like another person can. I played the original Resident Evil games, and the new remakes even though they are not really my types of games. I thought they were both very good in their own rights. Sometimes the camera angles had more intense moments, and sometimes the over the shoulder view had more intense. While I see your point about changing the core of the game, and what games like Crow County are trying to recreate (on my Steam wishlist already!), it isn’t always a bad thing to change the games up. Seeing what they were able to accomplish on the PS1 is impressive, and seeing the same game (albeit refreshed in some ways) through a new lens is also interesting. I guess I just look at them as they are and what they are. They’re each their own entity, and I just go off of that. I’ve never heard of Hollow Body before, so I’ll look that up while I boot King’s Field up!
I can see that you do, and as a newcomer to the series, I can see why! I have always found that having more people to talk about a game with is more fun than it disappearing into obscurity and only lauded by a few who gave it a chance, even with what most would call some issues! Try to look at it this way, there will always be people like you who want it to be the purest version of a game they love, and that’s perfectly good! Allowing others to join in on that fun, and letting the love for the games/series grow is also a good thing. Look at Elden Ring. It is the purest form of Dark Souls mechanics, while also introducing loads of new and exciting things. More people played Elden Ring, thanks to previous games achievements, and the fervent fan base it has garnered. That is awesome! While the combat may not be as hard as Demon’s Souls was (it can be, but I feel like the older games were a bit harder, but maybe I just got better?), more people are able to play it thanks to the refinement and additions!
If FromSoftware were to revisit the King’s Field games, I know they would only improve upon, not tarnish, the series and allow new comers to play and enjoy it like they did with Elden Ring. :)
In the mean time, there are a few games I have wishlisted that will hopefully scratch that itch when I finish these games. Dead Wells, Mohrta, Verho, and Fiend’s Isle were the ones that seemed to get the closest! It’s such a niche genre, I hate that it’s not more popular!
*** I am doing the same! Again, thank you for your comments! :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment!
I haven’t gotten to the first or second game just yet, as I will be backtracking from the more refined, and as you said, more accessible games to the older titles as those will play more similar to the games I’ve found that used the toolkit for their creation! As you said, the website I linked to for the toolkit is the website hosted by the gracious person who took their time and love of the King’s Field series and used it to improve the engine!
I understand what you mean by the game being purposefully built for the slow gameplay, but that just isn’t how I want to spend my time as someone who doesn’t have a lot of free time. That means that if I can, I will increase the walking speed, the combat speed, or whatever else I need to do to make the game more enjoyable for me, such as being able to use the right analog stick to move the camera. I’m not in it for the slow pacedness of it, I am in it for the exploration, level design, and over feel the games provide. I think it is awesome that people choose to play these games as there were meant to be played, and as you said, would even recommend it for those that want that challenge! I know there are others like me though, and that means that if it can help them enjoy the game for themselves, why try to invalidate their enjoyment? We can both play the same game, and talk about the level design, the secrets, and the atmosphere, while still being able to enjoy the game in our own preferred way. That’s part of the fun of gaming after all! Some play on easy, others play on the hardest difficulty, and that’s just fine!
I am sorry to hear you didn’t like Lunacid that much, and while I agree the anime characters are pretty out there (and definitely not something I enjoyed seeing for the first time), you don’t see them often enough, or at least I didn’t through my entire 30 hour playthrough, where it became such an issue as to quit playing. Lunacid’s developer only mentioned it being inspired by King’s Field, and I think it took that inspiration very well. Maybe they changed the wording by the time it was fully released, but I never saw anything that said it was supposed to be a successor, only that it was heavily inspired. With that said, I understand what you were wanting, and I am sorry you did not get it. For a casual like myself, however, it was an absolute blast that made me go on to start playing King’s Field and Shadow Tower, mainly because there aren’t enough games like them!
As for the music, I am enjoying the music on King’s Field IV, I enjoyed the music on Lunacid, and I hope that when I get done with King’s Field IV, I’ll enjoy the music in Shadow Tower!
All in all, the limitations of the past are gone. I understand they were working with the technology of the time, and I love what they were able to accomplish. No loading screens on a PS2 game, let alone PS1, was such an amazing feat that I don’t think they get enough credit for! But, these limitations do not have to exist any longer, and I think people should be able to play any game, no matter if the developers are targeting a hardcore market or not, because I think limiting people from playing games is kind of sad. Video games are supposed to be an outlet, a hobby, something you can do to take your mind off of things or have a little escapism. If that means allowing them to play a game with more modern controls, as I have done for King’s Field IV, why should that bother anyone else? You can still play the game the way it was intended to, while I play it in a way that is more satisfying for me.
Again, thank you for the time and effort you put into your comment. I just want others to try these gems out too. :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to comment!
I haven’t gotten to the first or second game just yet, as I will be backtracking from the more refined, and as you said, more accessible games to the older titles as those will play more similar to the games I’ve found that used the toolkit for their creation! As you said, the website I linked to for the toolkit is the website hosted by the gracious person who took their time and love of the King’s Field series and used it to improve the engine!
I understand what you mean by the game being purposefully built for the slow gameplay, but that just isn’t how I want to spend my time as someone who doesn’t have a lot of free time. That means that if I can, I will increase the walking speed, the combat speed, or whatever else I need to do to make the game more enjoyable for me, such as being able to use the right analog stick to move the camera. I’m not in it for the slow pacedness of it, I am in it for the exploration, level design, and over feel the games provide. I think it is awesome that people choose to play these games as there were meant to be played, and as you said, would even recommend it for those that want that challenge! I know there are others like me though, and that means that if it can help them enjoy the game for themselves, why try to invalidate their enjoyment? We can both play the same game, and talk about the level design, the secrets, and the atmosphere, while still being able to enjoy the game in our own preferred way. That’s part of the fun of gaming after all! Some play on easy, others play on the hardest difficulty, and that’s just fine!
I am sorry to hear you didn’t like Lunacid that much, and while I agree the anime characters are pretty out there (and definitely not something I enjoyed seeing for the first time), you don’t see them often enough, or at least I didn’t through my entire 30 hour playthrough, where it became such an issue as to quit playing. Lunacid’s developer only mentioned it being inspired by King’s Field, and I think it took that inspiration very well. Maybe they changed the wording by the time it was fully released, but I never saw anything that said it was supposed to be a successor, only that it was heavily inspired. With that said, I understand what you were wanting, and I am sorry you did not get it. For a casual like myself, however, it was an absolute blast that made me go on to start playing King’s Field and Shadow Tower, mainly because there aren’t enough games like them!
As for the music, I am enjoying the music on King’s Field IV, I enjoyed the music on Lunacid, and I hope that when I get done with King’s Field IV, I’ll enjoy the music in Shadow Tower!
All in all, the limitations of the past are gone. I understand they were working with the technology of the time, and I love what they were able to accomplish. No loading screens on a PS2 game, let alone PS1, was such an amazing feat that I don’t think they get enough credit for! But, these limitations do not have to exist any longer, and I think people should be able to play any game, no matter if the developers are targeting a hardcore market or not, because I think limiting people from playing games is kind of sad. Video games are supposed to be an outlet, a hobby, something you can do to take your mind off of things or have a little escapism. If that means allowing them to play a game with more modern controls, as I have done for King’s Field IV, why should that bother anyone else? You can still play the game the way it was intended to, while I play it in a way that is more satisfying for me.
Again, thank you for the time and effort you put into your comment. I just want others to try these gems out too. :)
I was thinking the same! That’s pretty good all things considered!
I’ve got Insurgence, and Reborn ready to go as soon as I get through Unbound! I’m glad you’ve been able to enjoy these so much! As soon as Did You Know Gaming released a video about Nintendo taking down fan games and rom hacks, I immediately went and got as many of the more polished and lauded ones as soon as I possibly could! :)
Have you tried Unbound?
That’s how I’ve always viewed Linux, and just knowledge in general. Thank you for being kind enough to offer. I honestly haven’t had someone come off the way you did in a very long time, both online and in real life.
I wanted to update you and let you know I was able to get the game running on openSUSE. My issue was that I was trying to get WeMod to work with the game, and had forgotten about the launch options for WeMod. So, after taking the launch options back to blank, it booted up slowly but surely, and it was fine.
I also figured out I can take the game files from my Windows SSD to use in openSUSE. Which means the mods I installed on Windows when I was playing, seamlessly pulled over to Linux. That’s pretty damn cool.
I think after work today, I might try to fiddle with Layla Launcher and see if the cheats on there will work.
Thank you again. You are very kind!