I deleted my other comment because dogs jumped on me and somehow in the mix up, I pressed the post button, so I removed the partially malformed comment.

On the first topic, your reasoning to differentiate what the goals of competitive games and “chasing higher something” is just not well put into words here. From what I am reading, you tried to make them look different on the higher level view but failed to showcase that, which for both sides you claim one is competitive and the other side is not competitive. However, most definitions for being competitive is to chase ever higher “somethings” for which is mostly points but in other aspects can be money. Hence your reasoning has basically equated them even more deeply. So your point to make them different needs to be redone with that can make your point more clear and is reasonably opposites.

Moving on, I didn’t agree completely that playing with cash is strictly adult. More or less, anything that requires express consent, such as decisions that involve risk of self hurting activities (playing with cash is one of these activities because of our dependency on money), and other adult topics that are not relevant here. There are things that kids can buy to play games for or gain cosmetics for RP or whatever, however I understand the problem will be account selling shenanigans, but that at least raises the bar on barrier of entry too, and most not doing it. Kids need to learn to be less impulsive and I think that is more of what is the root of the problem in this case. We need regulations that would punish companies that try to exploit this.

Yeah, gateway drugs… Look, I know that actual hard to quit drugs are not close to the same as these psychological only addictive activities. Physical withdrawal from those drugs are miles more deadly and impactful on someone’s body and brain. I do think people can take some addictions too far but those cases are more likely to be popular in the news than the more tame stories that highlight what the majority will experience. I am still adamant that balatro is no where close to this topic. It is not able to transition you to something else and this is more on an individual basis and not really generalizable. If someone is being socially pressured by friends or others to do it then balatro will better prepare someone to not make bigger mistakes, so in reality it has a positive than a negative.

This is why I have a hard time reasoning with you on this. I will like to move on, so I will end it here. I feel like we have made our points and we will decide for our own. When it comes down to it, I will more than likely vote for any regulation to pass on restricting gambling and other forms of negative addictions, while weighing in any freedoms that may be reduced or affected. We will see, happy holidays.

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at the end of the day, problems are at different views here. I find games are very similar in many aspects, such as relying heavily on RNG to make outcomes varied. If normal no cash poker is adult, then games like uno and other forms of RNG based games like rolling dice can just as much be adult from your reasoning. I am not particular to labeling games in this way.

there are many more nuances to labeling as adult oriented, such as ability to cause oneself to be worse off in life to the point that it is harmful (like losing your life savings or going into debt) or the content is sexual. that is what I would consider requirement for labeling as adult. I personally think anything that is tied with cash should be labeled as adult. yet, right now, this line is heavily blurred by microtransactions, lootboxes, cosmetics, in game currency and other ways to play with cash.

Playing with cash should be adult, but in game cash you cannot sell or buy is not something I think I can equate here because I see it as another incremental simulator kind of game, like many idle games are like now a days.

I think there are dynamics at play her but to keep it short. I admire your steadfast disappointment towards gambling or playing with odds. However, for a game like balatro being completely free to continue playing after the initial purchase. As far as I can tell, there are no micro transactions or push for players to sink their wallets into the game. The entire game is basically a simulation. All randomizations are predetermined based on a seed. You can set it or you can figure it out if you are smart enough in math and cryptography. However, ratings are more annoyance than being a real guard against the real problems happening right now.

There are many more dissatisfying things. I doubt we should fight over the rating. Instead we should be in agreement that gambling and other pay to play odds like loot boxes is bad and stricter regulations.

I have seen people burn money in games just as much as some who has gambling problems. Just one has the person expectations being hoping if earning more to continue to gamble with, while gamers who spend cash are looking for more extrinsic values that are still just as useless or not worth it. I do say these game devs are more deserving of the cash but loot boxes exist and others forms of gambling that gets a blind eye. Balatro isn’t even real cash. It’s not the same.

It’s loss btw

This comment is the definition of projecting

It does seem harder to reach lower numbers than high numbers

Thanks Sony for making such a flop that scalpers need to sell at a loss.

I mean F-droid has it if you prefer that instead

Reading the room is a skill, not a burden… Keep your opinion, we also have our own. No wonder YouTube got rid of the down vote button and other social platforms don’t really have one. Both sides pretty much want to suppress each other. No matter how much I like factorio, I don’t think many people who do play it care about is looks and the people who also play mindustry also don’t care how “terrible” it looks when we consider your standards as the measurement…

You done goofed your reasoning. You rolled a nat 1 on charisma and intelligence check. Rip bozo

Unofficially the stylus on a Samsung phone is great for this kind of game

This is the craziest part. They really make you feel uncomfortable and not really part of the system. You are just a subscription and nothing more, you get nothing, you own nothing, and you might as well give up and keep paying for a service you might be able to use

There are definitely some maps on the new planet where I seemingly realized that pausing was strictly necessary as the waves start overwhelming the defenses and units to the point that I either run out of resources or they somehow sneak one drone in that wrecks havoc on the supply lines that are already packed with not enough space to add the turrets that can deal with the advanced units. Eventually, it really became a race to finish as fast as possible. Also, the staggered unlocks or limited resources on some maps were brutal.

IDK about you but the company I work for can’t live without npm packages doing almost everything. For example: the is-even package.

I hear sucking on a lollipop can help.

Yeah Linux still has plenty to work on. It’s unfortunate how limited the support is. If game and app developers could target Linux, then the cost to support and maintain would be lower than they have to do with Windows. Unfortunately, market share and power of defaults work against us.

If you can, look towards getting a steam deck. At least that is a Linux thing that is pretty decent and portable.

I can still hear this level in my head, but the one I can remember the best is chemical plant

Then, a bunch of reaction videos and clips of said video are posted after the livestreamer is done reacting , not adding anything to the video to rake in views and ad revenue

Well I think it was pretty toxic how people hit you with downvotes but reflecting on it, your comment was not meant for this thread.

I do believe with a bit more info and some images, your post can be a completely new thread. I don’t know what fill tiling is or whatever that scripted WM could mean. I like your counterargument against DEs that focus on the dual interaction of mouse and keyboard that emphasizes the cursor control(inclusive of tablets and touchscreens)

I firmly believe Linux currently is much more powerful than the other major OSes is due to the fact that it can be heavily automated. So if you do end up making a thread on your DE, let me know