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    Why wait?

    Also, Brave browser exists for those who are particularly attached to chromium.

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        I’m just learning about what all the fuss around Brave is. But I’d be interested to hear how Google seems to be the ethical choice for a daily driver browser currently. It’s obviously fine to not want to use Brave, but how is it the inferior choice when compared to Chrome (or even considered a sidegrade)? Even with all the issues mentioned I’d still recommend it as the lesser of the 2 evils compared to Chrome.

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          No one is saying Chrome is the ethical choice, why are you reducing this to a 2 options choice?

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            why are you reducing this to a 2 options choice?

            I’m not.

            No one is saying Chrome is the ethical choice

            The commenter I’m replaying to implies they’re using Chrome primarily, and then reacted negatively to the mention of Brave. I’m asking how Chrome use is the acceptable choice and Brave is seemingly so bad in comparison.

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              I don’t think the commenter you are replying to is arguing that chrome is a better choice. He or she knows it’s bad but didn’t make the change out of lazyness (no offence). Change has a cost, especially if it implies changing habits. So people will just delay or avoid them.

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          obviously, but when you have the option of just, not using chrome at all, why would you use anything chromium based to begin with, google is literally the problem here lmao

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          • shady issues in the past from company
          • heavily integrated with crypto (controversial for some)
          • CEO is a transphobe
          • it’s still Chrome under the hood
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            • CEO is also homophobic and a covid skeptic
            • the browser used to modify crypto exchange URLs to add it’s affiliate code to it
            • it used to collect donations for content creators without their consent
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                Firefox is

                1. Dependant on Google’s ad revenue
                2. Joining the advertising market themselves
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                  1. Dependant on Google’s money, the majority of Google comes from ads but not all of them. The deal is not directly with ads, is the default search engine on Firefox.
                  2. This is recently, sucks a lot but we did not see yet how they’ll use that with the browser.

                  More importantly the biggest difference is Brave want to be like Google, is the goal of the company. Mozilla is funding the project in the shittiest way possible but is not the end goal.

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              So you are sure that Google and Mozilla doesn’t employ any homophobics? They obviously have some sort of mind reader?

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                You are right, I should have been more specific. He’s openly homophobic. I’m also pretty sure that’s not the case for Mozilla as he was Mozilla’s CEO and was pushed out over this specific thing.

                I don’t know why you are shifting from CEO to employees.

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          I don’t know, I’ve seen answers to this so many times on Lemmy.

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          I’ve seen this answered so many times it’d make your head spin, looney-toons style. If you don’t know then you haven’t been paying any attention.

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          My personal reason, I looked at their code and it was amateur town. Hacked together trash. There’s a proper way to modify Chromium and they didn’t follow any of it. In contrast, Vivaldi’s coders knew what they were doing. I don’t actively use or support Chrome, but if you’re going to do something, do it right.

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      brave is literally just chromium, it solves none of the fundamental problems other than being like, reasonably well built.

      It’s chrome, but if it didnt’t try and kill you ever update. That’s the difference.

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      I could see this as part of a metrics thing - if Google sees a big drop in users right after the rollout, it’s harder to brush it under the rug as having no correlation.

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      Brave is a great browser and the only chromium one I would ever use but mentioning it on Reddit OR Lemmy will cause you to get mass downvoted unfortunately

      The browser lets you customize the dashboard so you can make the browser look as clean or minimal as you want with almost no distractions

      Biggest issue I have with Firefox is that some websites can be broken but 99.9% of the time this is not Firefox’s fault and the only one to blame is lazy developer’s

      Firefox out of the box doesn’t come with specific features that the websites that I use need which is why I haven’t made the switch yet, biggest one is that Firefox doesn’t work with Keychron’s in browser software that is used to customize their keyboards. Again this is not Firefox’s fault because Firefox didn’t adopt the feature because of security concerns which is completely valid and even commendable.