This is half a decade old news, but I only found this out myself after it accidentally came up in conversation at the DMV. The worker would not have informed me if it hadn’t come into conversation. Every DMV photo in the United States is being used for AI facial recognition, and nobody has talked about it for years. This is especially concerning given that citizens are recently being required to update their ID to a “Real ID,” which means more people than ever before are giving away the rights to their own face.
The biggest problem with privacy issues is that people talk about it for a while, but more often than not nothing ever happens to fix the problem, it simply gets forgotten. For example, in the next few years Copilot will simply become a part of people’s lives, and people will slowly stop talking about the privacy implications. What can we even do to fight the privacy practices of giants?
9/11 enabled so much of this to be fast-tracked. Thanks, Patriot Act.
Have you read Means of Control (Byron Tau)? He tracks the evolution of all of this and how we got to where we are today. Yes, 9/11 fast-tracked it but there’s so much more to it. Highly recommended.
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Donate to eff, aclu, and other privacy organizations.
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They’re literally lobbiests and have a track record of forcing the government to make great changes for the people
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The EFF and ACLU employ a number of people, and some of those people exist to lobby the government to not make dumb laws.
Politicians don’t understand technology, so they need lobbiests to explain to them how legislation could be bad for people from a technical perspective
When you fund the EFF, you get lobbiests on your behalf going to legislators to fix broken legislation. And lobbyists going to legislators to write good legislation to protect our rights.
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I was answering your question: Huh?
It’s better than not doing anything.
Vote pirate party
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Or you’re willing to immolate a billionaire or a politician, as long as it’s a sincerely held religious belief.
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I don’t think Billionaires even get an exception. It actually might be worse for them in some ways.
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This is especially concerning given that citizens […]
Not everyone with a US driver’s license is a US citizen.
Correct, however this issue primary affects US citizens, given that driver’s licenses aren’t the only ID the DMV takes pictures for (e.g. the aforementioned Real ID)
Non-citizens also use driver’s licenses and state IDs with Real ID. It’s standard regardless of citizenship.
I kind of mentally prepared for it when I got my ID. Not only that but they also fingerprint your right thumb.
Just renewed my ID on Friday and I went for the Real ID. No fingerprinting. So it must differ by state.
Interesting. I’m in California
nobody has talked about it for years
There are rumblings here in CO about curtailing law enforcement’s use of this database. I personally would like to have subpoena protection of the database, so at least it has to go before a judge before the cops just rifle through everyone’s pictures.
This is especially concerning given that citizens are recently being required to update their ID to a “Real ID,” which means more people than ever before are giving away the rights to their own face.
lol, no. Real ID is just a set of requirements the federal govt. has implemented to make sure state IDs are held to the same standard as passports re: data integrity and information presented. That’s all. Not mark of the beast, not something nefarious to track you more than your old state-issued DL did in the past. As far as “recently”? Nope, states have had 20 years.
Every DMV photo in the United States is being used for AI facial recognition
I’m glad I don’t have a US driving license then.
in the next few years Copilot will simply become a part of people’s lives
Only those who don’t care about privacy and use Windows.
Only those who don’t care about privacy and use Windows.
So most people, then.
Do you have a passport?
Yeah, that dumbass doesn’t realize the EU has been using passport photos to allow Interpol to build a database since back in 2010.
Jokes on them, they made me take off my glasses that hide aspects of my wonky face but I wear glasses 100% of the time out in the world. You’ll never catch me, copper!
(I know. I just like to think it can’t figure out crooked nose vs glasses. )
Paint your face in weird shapes and colors and tell them its a tattoo.
Qr code to rickroll tattoo
Perhaps henna
I see no issue with the government using photo ID pictures this way, just as long as they aren’t using third parties to handle the technical aspect of it or allowing any of the data to be handled by any third parties (eg private corps). They would be stupid to ignore that large amount of known good data they could train their facial rec models on. Yes it sounds big and evil but that’s the world we live in as long as this technology exists and you want to participate in society, I guess.
They’re collecting the data already, it’s being used this way already by everyone else, so why not?
Many people’s threat models, like my own, are against mass surveillance. This falls under that category, even if it’s being handled responsibly. The issue is people have no way to opt out, and there is a lack of transparency about the use of facial recognition.
