• Encrypt-Keeper@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It does not. Denuvo is often cracked within hours.

    And, I repeat, piracy is the cause of Denuvo.

    It’s also often the cause of piracy. If your two options are 1. Spend a bunch of money for a worse experience or 2. Spend 0 money for a better experience, there’s no practical reason to choose option 1.

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      3 days ago

      Denuvo is often cracked within hours.

      Very recently - maybe.

      It’s also often the cause of piracy.

      And what was first?

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        3 days ago

        Very recently - maybe.

        No for nearly 10 years now. There was a stint of a year or two where cracks took a little longer, but truth be told that was around when COVID happened and there were just fewer big ticket games for people to put effort into it. Several groups just got out of the game. These days the only thing protecting games from piracy isn’t Denuvo, it’s the lack of interest of scene groups in doing the cracking. Since it’s picked back up though we’re seeing games cracked within hours of release or in some cases prior to release. At most a few days to a week. The days of it taking three months are gone

        And what was first?

        For an increasing number of people, Denuvo. With the hardware crisis and all, people aren’t upgrading hardware as much as they used to. People have to do more with less. Games with Denuvo removed run better on the same hardware, so people who have had no financial interest in pirating have turned to it as a means of making their games run better.

        We’ve seen this all before with streaming. When Netflix got big, tv/movie piracy nearly died out because it was so convenient to pay for streaming.

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          There was a stint of a year or two where cracks took a little longer

          I guess I must have entered some utopian parallel universe when I clicked into this thread because I see all these people commenting things like this but I look over to the other sites like crackwatch and cs-rin and literally see that there were 3 legitimate denuvo cracks TOTAL between the between empress’s 2023 crashout and voices38’s public 2026 entry. (Dragon’s Dogma 2 was a debug build leak). Or maybe the excitement of the hypervisor bypass got people hallucinating some revisionist history.

          These days the only thing protecting games from piracy isn’t Denuvo, it’s the lack of interest of scene groups in doing the cracking

          So when RE4 got cracked once in 2023 by empress, no other patches get cracked for the next 3 years, then denuvo gets removed in 2026, and RUNE cracks the latest version on that very same day, it wasn’t because of denuvo, it was because RUNE suddenly gained interest? as a total coincidence or what?

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            It’s like I said, the biggest opposition to game pirating isn’t the protection Denuvo actually provides but just the lack of interest in people doing the cracking.

            I can see where you’d argue that this means Denuvo is “working” but only in the sense that any old $2 lock you put on your front door is protecting your home from the 0 people attempting to break and enter.

            Also in the void EMPRESS left in the scene, there have been newcomers, but they’ve started off by cracking older games.

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              And those exact same people suddenly gain an interest as soon as denuvo is removed? Get real man.

              any old $2 lock you put on your front door is protecting your home from the 0 people attempting to break and enter.

              “well I wasn’t even trying anyways!” excuse lol

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                1 day ago

                And those exact same people suddenly gain an interest as soon as denuvo is removed?

                No the lack of interest is probably there in both cases.

                “well I wasn’t even trying anyways!” excuse lol

                Generational levels of cope on display here. “My lock is so effective that NOBODY* can break it!”

                *No one has tried

                By that logic the locking mechanism on my old 1998 Ford Taurus I was driving in 2015 had a state of the art security system that protected it that would put modern solutions to shame because for some reason, it was never stolen.

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                  1 day ago

                  So convenient that there is exactly enough interest to crack every non denuvo game in 1 day but every single denuvo game with millions in sales gets left alone for years 😂 because obviously cracking Laundry Store Simulator is more “interesting” than cracking the latest multi million AAA hit 😂

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                    What on earth are you talking about? You’re all tied up in knots. I’m not talking about any non-Denuvo games.

                    every single denuvo game with millions in sales gets left alone for years

                    I mean if you ignore the ones that don’t, then sure. Most recently RE Requiem just came out and is a AAA hit with millions of sales, has Denuvo, and has already been cracked. That doesn’t sound like it was “left alone for years” to me.

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          These days the only thing protecting games from piracy isn’t Denuvo, it’s the lack of interest of scene groups in doing the cracking.

          So Denuvo keeps working then?