Reddit CEO says facial verification may be introduced. Ostensibly to prevent bots.
But we all know how dangerous this can be. But most likely Reddit users will just accept it.
Although they have a great free analogue right under their noses - Lemmy. Which is many times better than its competitor.
I wish more people would discover Lemmy, but that’s unlikely.
It’s just building and gamify strategically. There’s no magic here. It works. Bots can adapt all they want. They’re still constraint and limited by technology and money.
What is magic is humans ability to use inference and deduction to see things that are not right in front of us. It’s hard to see this online especially the way some conversations go… but regardless of that, people could easily detect patterns that are used in the wild. We just need data. Lemmy communities are perfectly set up for this for now.
How much of what I wrote so far was done via an LLM?
That’s not the point. There is no issue with random people using LLM to craft their messages. The issue is using a network of bots to promote the latest marvel movie. Draw attention to the latest political blunder. Or just groups trying to push people further to the edges politically until nothing works.
Look at this fucking guy. Likely not a bot. But is an example of someone who is posting pattern is suspicious. It needs to be studied. That’s something we can’t do. But we can collect and analyze in a way that i think people can get into. I think using the internet and sites like lemmy for this is way more effective any most stuff people are trying to do. This he what the internet was made for and the only people not using it for this seems to be leftist groups.
You have just defined why your method doesn’t work.
You either detect AI by their language or you don’t.
But, I think, I know what you mean. Your idea is like Bat-sonar, the super-totally-not-magical computer he built in the second or third Nolan film that allowed him to spy on everybody and thus detect crimes faster.
You want a system that would monitor ALL content online and detect “patterns”. Like, “huh, weirdly, we have XXX number of people writing positively about the new JJ Abrams film”, or “check it out, in the past hour we’ve had 43243 comments negative about MAGA”.
Right?
If so: mate… You require literal magic to pull it off. WAY too many false positives or just impossible to trace dependencies. You would have to not only monitor for these patterns, but also associate them with any real-world events (ALL events), because maybe a Polish nationalist politician said something about the financing methods of their military, which got popular on russian Twitter, got a funny anti-MAGA retweet by a Ukrainian, ended up as a reaction video on British TikTok, and got posted to Reddit where it got upvoted to r/All and received 43243 100% legitimate comments complaining about MAGA.
Funnily enough, if anything, MAYBE a complex enough AI system would be capable of finding these patterns, but there’s absolutely no physical possibility of humans doing that.
Hey,
What do you think crowd sourcing means. Like what is your definition in relation to building whatever it is you’re describing. How did you get there?
It means a bunch of people doing working in very narrow fields that need to be connected by someone with an overarching view, but there are so many so small fields, that it’s impossible for a human to handle. In this particular case.
Unless you figured out telepathy. Then I retract my statements - a large enough network of directly connected telepaths could do this.
No it doesn’t. That’s not it. And this is how i know you’re just a terminally online individual arguing out of instinct rather than common sense. Il not be commenting further.
But to my point. Crowd sourcing these things works. It’s a missed opportunity in these early days to be passive and more concerned with bean posts.
You just replied with a “nuh-uh!” and call me “terminally online”? That’s a good one.
You seem know a bunch of buzz-words that you don’t fully understand, like “crowd sourcing” in this instance. It’s like a magic wand, “just crowd source it, and it’ll just work”, without realising that - again, unless telepathy is involved - a crowd is still just a bunch of individuals. Without instantaneous real time communication no single individual can spot such a massive pattern as those you are after. Without spotting the “big picture”, the whole thing is pointless.
You can’t just magically call everything magical in an attempt to discredit and expect anyone thing you’re anybody but dishonest. I’m not spending the evening attempting to keep you on track when you can’t be bothered to read and instead you’re just looking for bullshit arguments and at worst attempting to discredit for whatever personal reason you have.