• Einar@lemmy.zip
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    spoiler

    Sisko hasn’t returned yet. The ‘Prophets’ live outside of time. His return to his family/this alteration of the timeline might not have happened yet, because we experience and perceive time as linear.

    There’s probably issues with this reasoning.

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    I totally agree with her that DS9 is a very overlooked series, especially compared to TOS (basically got DIS season 1 and 2 and SNW), TNG (Picard and LD) and Voyager (Prodigy? Not sure, only watched the beginning so far) which all got spinoffs of sorts. But DS), despite being called the best Trek series very often? Nada.

    I think using Dax as a link is a clever idea (because they transcend time), and she plays the role well, but I just don’t like the Trill because it’s never quite clear how much they remember from past hosts. Then there’s this thing where they meet all their previous hosts, and if you lived for a thousand years, this is just gonna take a year now lol

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      On Joined Trill memory, it could be thought of as a similar concept to “Me” in Doctor Who. The humanoid brain can’t hold multiple lifetimes of memory, but in the case of a Trill, the memory is stored in a symbiont and accessed through a complex psychological connection.

      One could also liken it to sense memory, reductively, like Jason Bourne- with an amnesia that allows access to memories or experiences when exposed to emotional or physical stimuli. Take Jadzia, who before being joined had a background that was almost entirely based in scientific academia. However, when on a starship, she is almost always the pilot. Why? Put her in front of the helm and she can access the skills and experience of Torias Dax.

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        I remember an early (season 2?) DS9 episode where Sisko had to remind Dax that one of her previous hosts had a specific skill which they needed in that situation, but Dax was like “Oh yeah you’re right.” So either these memories are so deep in their subconsciousness or… I don’t know.

        As I said, I don’t like the Trill as a concept and they were regularly my least favourite episodes in DS9.

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            That it’s not consistent what Trill remember and what not. Sometimes Dax knows everything about her former hosts, sometimes nothing. Sometimes the hosts are important, sometimes the symbiont.

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      Sexism violates our instance principles, I know you’re a regular here so please edit your comment (being Australian is not a excuse here).

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      Who are you asking? Do you have an opinion of your own? Is there any chance at all you have something to say about the interview you’re ostensibly discussing?

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        speaking of what are your opinions on this link you put forward. What did you think about it when you watched it? Why is it worth a watch?

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          What are you talking about? What video?

          This thread is focused on the interview as WRITTEN in the article posted.

          Are you calling out OP for not watching a video? Did you read the article interview yourself?

          Get a grip, man…

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            Nope. Im calling out links and media that somone drops with no context. Its a pet peeve of mine. One of my bigger asks is a way to filter out content that does not have a written body and I generally avoid discourse myself with them as the OP did not start any discourse to begin with. The OP’s response to the comment annoys me as its suggesting they feel they did not read and its like hey if you want to make a comment like that why don’t you actually explaine why you dropped a link in to begin with. Its like getting pamphlets pushed in your face as you walk down the street. Ironically its what got me to comment against my general rule of not engaging if the op does not start some with their post.

            • ValueSubtracted@startrek.websiteOPM
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              The “context” is in the headline. That tells you all that you should need to know to determine whether you want to read the article.

              The fact that you seem to want someone to do that work for you and tell you what to think (divorcing whatever gets highlighted from its full context in the interview in the process) is frankly disappointing.

              Getting mad at link aggregation software for aggregating links is a real choice.

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                See I don’t view this as link aggregation software. I view it as discourse software. I get annoyed because I can’t filter it out like I would like to, so I end up clicking on things I otherwise would not. I don’t appreciate it anymore than a friend shoving a magazine in my face rather than prefacing a bit with he found an interesting article and would I like to read it. No the headlines don’t provide the context which is why would a real human want to read some article.

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                  Great. Read the interview, and if there’s any aspect of it you feel you need to add thoughts to, go ahead and do it. And if you don’t have anything to add, (a) that doesn’t mean it’s not worth sharing, and (b) you can just bypass the thread entirely.

                  It’s not on OPs to tell people what aspects of an article to talk about, and in many cases, I would argue that it’s not appropriate to try.

                  I don’t appreciate it anymore than a friend shoving a magazine in my face

                  You can’t possibly think that someone posting something online is analogous to approaching you and shoving something in your face. Please tell me you can tell the difference.

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      DS9! remember DS9?? It’s the one you all say is the good one after the other one that’s best and we also did a take on, now remember DS9 and check out how this show is more DS9! Did I mention DS9???

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        Keeping in mind DS9 itself opened on a direct TNG tie in, sprinkled TNG villains through the first season, then brought back every Klingon captain from TOS, and finally just went all in and edited everyone into a TOS episode so Dax could swoon over Spock’s eyes and Sisko could sneak Kirk’s autograph…

        Every Trek show since the original has referenced the others like this. I think it’s good fun.

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          And TNG has appearances from several TOS cast members reprising their original roles; Deforest Kelly, James Doohan, Mark Leonard and Leonard Nimoy.

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          They also just introduced one of the main characters of TNG in season 4, even referencing a TNG movie. It is wild to assume Star Trek was never self-referential lol

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            Voyager referenced or included TOS and TNG characters in at least eight episodes of season 3.

            • “Flashback” was the big Sulu/Rand/Kang 30th anniversary tribute
            • “Death Wish” had Q and Riker
            • In “Alliances” Tuvok talks about Spock and recaps the events of Undiscovered Country
            • McCoy was mentioned in “Lifesigns”
            • Data was mentioned in “Prototype”
            • Sulu was mentioned in “Tattoo”
            • Picard and Moriarty were mentioned in “Alter Ego”
            • Picard was mentioned again in “Scorpion”

            That’s basically a third of the season, assuming I didn’t forget any. And that’s not even counting things like the mention of Wolf 359 in “Unity” or the koon-ut-kal-if-fee in “Blood Fever”.

            And that’s from the show that went out of their way to make it hard to use existing concepts.

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          Trials and Tribble-ations is a masterwork. Star Trek’s penchant to self reference can make great things. But it can also make episodes like many of the Enterprise ones.