No, that’s not what I said at all, and the fact that you interpreted what I said that way is frustrating.
So you’re saying that eliminating peoples utility bills
Solar isn’t going to eliminate people’s utility bills any more than nuclear did, nor wind nor hydroelectric. Within the boundaries of capitalism, renewables are still privatized. Solar panels for individual home use are prohibitively expensive for the majority of the working classes everywhere, including the imperial core. If we could eliminate utility bills that would be nice, but that can’t happen at scale without socialism.
giving them more resources and hope
Wages are set to cost of replacement of labor, not productivity. Organizing is more effective for winning material gains, as this is what raises the floor, not automation or improvements in productivity. Capitalists will pay as little as they can and suck up as much as they can without organized resistance, even if everyone had solar panels in capitalism.
wont help the revolution and we should disregard renewable energy
Way to jump the shark. I said we need renewables, but the idea that they will meaningfully impact revolution, outside of maybe revolutionary parties using them, is what I’m questioning. Renewables are the future, capitalist or socialist, and pursuing them in capitalism is still worthwhile, just not revolutionary.
That little steps towards a better more equitable world should not be advertised?
No, I just disagree that these steps are feasible for the broad majority of the working classes within the boundaries of capitalism, and are a privledge for better paid workers and above. Little steps are great, but we need to contextualize them with the primary task: organizing.
No, that’s not what I said at all, and the fact that you interpreted what I said that way is frustrating.
Solar isn’t going to eliminate people’s utility bills any more than nuclear did, nor wind nor hydroelectric. Within the boundaries of capitalism, renewables are still privatized. Solar panels for individual home use are prohibitively expensive for the majority of the working classes everywhere, including the imperial core. If we could eliminate utility bills that would be nice, but that can’t happen at scale without socialism.
Wages are set to cost of replacement of labor, not productivity. Organizing is more effective for winning material gains, as this is what raises the floor, not automation or improvements in productivity. Capitalists will pay as little as they can and suck up as much as they can without organized resistance, even if everyone had solar panels in capitalism.
Way to jump the shark. I said we need renewables, but the idea that they will meaningfully impact revolution, outside of maybe revolutionary parties using them, is what I’m questioning. Renewables are the future, capitalist or socialist, and pursuing them in capitalism is still worthwhile, just not revolutionary.
No, I just disagree that these steps are feasible for the broad majority of the working classes within the boundaries of capitalism, and are a privledge for better paid workers and above. Little steps are great, but we need to contextualize them with the primary task: organizing.