• appel@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Whenever someone calls something “socialist”, ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it “Owningthelibism” or something.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

          • Milk@lemmy.sdf.org
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            1 year ago

            Concentration of power with those “social services”, making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

            • christiansocialist [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              1 year ago

              Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.

              China has tons of small and big businesses and it’s still socialist.

            • masquenox@lemmy.ml
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              1 year ago

              Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

              Tell me you don’t understand what the word socialism means without telling me you don’t understand what the word socialism means.

            • PreachHard@mander.xyz
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              1 year ago

              When you say “no room to make business.” That’s where I think the fundamental disagreement is rooted. Socialism is inherently built on the idea that what you are building in a capitalist system is exploiting labour. The people you bring in should have ownership of the company too in a socialist system, not the state. What you’re describing is a communist dictatorship. State programs should be run by the state just as they are in most countries now. You certainly don’t want companies running your government.

  • Milk@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a “right-wing extremist”.

      • Milk@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 year ago

        No, they’re all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others’ properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.

        • SootySootySoot [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          1 year ago

          I already have the right to say my mind and it doesn’t help my living situation at all, meanwhile right-wingers thankfully utilise their right to call for my death, the concentration of power is all in businesses which right-wingers consistently protect, and wtf does it mean to defend stable families?

          Undoing all the tax, benefits, and public services I’ve ever had wouldn’t get me out of poverty. Undoing the business and the non-worker class price gouging and manipulating of me and my family, and instead having a better incentive than profit, absolutely would.

  • missancap@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    It’s true. Everything I don’t like is socialist. And referring to things that don’t work as socialist no matter the context is an excellent idea, I’ll be doing that from now on.